Love or Hate Reborn

The Batlord · 11-07-2019, 08:14 PM

A mod deleted my rec I made just after you reviewed my album cause I called you a ******. Does that put me in front of elph?

Neapolitan · 11-07-2019, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart

Just a thought: as elphenor seldom gets involved in these things, and Neapolitan (who's next) and grindy both have had albums reviewed already, and as he seems to be waiting breathlessly for his one to come up, would either of you guys mind if I moved his selection up to be next? I just think it would a nice thing to ... oh wait, this is Music Banter isn't it? You don't do nice here, do you? You tell people to **** off. You're going to tell him to **** off, aren't you? **** off and wait your turn? Well, I tried.

Let me know if you're open to giving the guy a break. And no, I don't mean both his legs!

I miss this so I don't know if this is too late but I don't mind if do that.

Trollheart · 11-08-2019, 10:35 AM

Title: Entertainment!
Artist: Gang of Four
Genre: Post-punk
Artist Reaction: Unsure; I’ve heard of them before.
Genre Reaction: Not what it would be a few years ago; punk doesn’t scare me as much as it used to
Familiarity: Have heard of the band but have heard nothing from them
Suggested by: Neapolitan
A Little Background: Released in 1979 this is seen as a seminal record in the genre, and has been compared to Joyce’s Ulysses. Ohhhhh-kayyy…

Expectations: I really don’t know, but I don’t think I’ll hate it. Perhaps a mild Like?

Ether: Clash-ish start, with thick bass and militaristic drumming; lyrics almost spoken rather than sung. A very tight, stripped-down sound. It’s all right; I wouldn’t be mad about it though.
Natural’s Not In It: Another sharp, angry guitar opening, more kind of shouted vocals. Meh.
Not Great Men: Pretty much more of the same. Not impressed so far I must say.
(2)Damaged Goods: Fast reggae beat to this, a bit more interesting. Probably the best of a pretty bad lot so far.
Return the Gift: Back to that sharp guitar attack and a fairly uninspiring vocal line as far as I’m concerned.Good guitar riff at the end but lyrically very repetitive.
Guns Before Butter: Good interplay between guitar and bass here, sort of almost in a The The mode. Damn boring though.
(3)I Found That Essence Rare: This isn’t. It has a real spark and energy about it, and the singer stops shouting and sings instead. Best so far, well beats “Damaged Goods”. Much better.
(2) Glass: This too had a lot about it. Energy and passion, enjoyed this one.
Contract: Goes back to the annoyingly disjointed, staccato mode of much of the album and the sort of spoken/shouted vocal. No.
At Home He’s a Tourist: Kind of reminds me of the later work from The Specials. I never liked the Specials. ‘Nuff said.
(2) 5.45: This isn’t bad, but there’s been nothing to really interest me since “I Found That Essence Rare”, which is quite ironic, as I have. Found it rare, that is.
(3)Anthrax: Lot of guitar feedback in the opening to this, plus what sounds like whistle but probably isn't, then a pounding drumbeat. Instrumental up to the halfway point which makes me wonder if - no. There’s the vocal now. It’s actually not bad. A decent closing track.

Conclusion: Definitely not for me. I’ve got into some more punk over the last few years, especially Celtic, but also some hardcore (at least, so it’s called) like Frank Carter and Rise Against, but this just doesn’t do anything for me.

So, Love or Hate? I don’t hate it but it’s a definite and very clear Meh. Sorry, man.

The Batlord · 11-08-2019, 04:08 PM

"I Found that Essence Rare" is an all-time banger of any genre.

Trollheart · 11-08-2019, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Batlord

"I Found that Essence Rare" is an all-time banger of any genre.

The Batlord · 11-08-2019, 06:41 PM

Eh. On first listen it's a bit alien for people who aren't used to that kind of thing. It's an accessible enough album to only need a second listen though. It's definitely the pop album of post-punk and the best gateway to post-punk.

**Frownland** · 11-08-2019, 06:45 PM

Headbanging is a dance....

The Batlord · 11-08-2019, 07:03 PM

As if you can dance.

Trollheart · 11-08-2019, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elphenor

da fuq

this album rewrote entirely how I viewed (rock) music from the first listen

This just in: I'm not you. Listen to Trespass by Genesis or 2112 by Rush, tell me you don't like them, and realise then that everyone is different.
Except that guy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Batlord

Eh. On first listen it's a bit alien for people who aren't used to that kind of thing. It's an accessible enough album to only need a second listen though. It's definitely the pop album of post-punk and the best gateway to post-punk.

Yeah, did nothing for me. I'm getting into some very little punk as I said, but that just bored the arse off me. Pass.

The Batlord · 11-08-2019, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart

Yeah, did nothing for me. I'm getting into some very little punk as I said, but that just bored the arse off me. Pass.

I realize you have this really stupid one strike policy but I'd suggest giving the album another shot at some point cause it really is easy on the ears as far as these things go. Like if you're gonna give a post-punk album a second shot to see if you've come around then it should be Entertaintment!

11-08-2019, 10:35 AM	#133 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,992	Title: Entertainment! Artist: Gang of Four Genre: Post-punk Artist Reaction: Unsure; I’ve heard of them before. Genre Reaction: Not what it would be a few years ago; punk doesn’t scare me as much as it used to Familiarity: Have heard of the band but have heard nothing from them Suggested by: Neapolitan A Little Background: Released in 1979 this is seen as a seminal record in the genre, and has been compared to Joyce’s Ulysses. Ohhhhh-kayyy… Expectations: I really don’t know, but I don’t think I’ll hate it. Perhaps a mild Like? Ether: Clash-ish start, with thick bass and militaristic drumming; lyrics almost spoken rather than sung. A very tight, stripped-down sound. It’s all right; I wouldn’t be mad about it though. Natural’s Not In It: Another sharp, angry guitar opening, more kind of shouted vocals. Meh. Not Great Men: Pretty much more of the same. Not impressed so far I must say. (2)Damaged Goods: Fast reggae beat to this, a bit more interesting. Probably the best of a pretty bad lot so far. Return the Gift: Back to that sharp guitar attack and a fairly uninspiring vocal line as far as I’m concerned.Good guitar riff at the end but lyrically very repetitive. Guns Before Butter: Good interplay between guitar and bass here, sort of almost in a The The mode. Damn boring though. (3)I Found That Essence Rare: This isn’t. It has a real spark and energy about it, and the singer stops shouting and sings instead. Best so far, well beats “Damaged Goods”. Much better. (2) Glass: This too had a lot about it. Energy and passion, enjoyed this one. Contract: Goes back to the annoyingly disjointed, staccato mode of much of the album and the sort of spoken/shouted vocal. No. At Home He’s a Tourist: Kind of reminds me of the later work from The Specials. I never liked the Specials. ‘Nuff said. (2) 5.45: This isn’t bad, but there’s been nothing to really interest me since “I Found That Essence Rare”, which is quite ironic, as I have. Found it rare, that is. (3)Anthrax: Lot of guitar feedback in the opening to this, plus what sounds like whistle but probably isn't, then a pounding drumbeat. Instrumental up to the halfway point which makes me wonder if - no. There’s the vocal now. It’s actually not bad. A decent closing track. Conclusion: Definitely not for me. I’ve got into some more punk over the last few years, especially Celtic, but also some hardcore (at least, so it’s called) like Frank Carter and Rise Against, but this just doesn’t do anything for me. So, Love or Hate? I don’t hate it but it’s a definite and very clear Meh. Sorry, man. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

11-08-2019, 06:45 PM	#137 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Headbanging is a dance.... __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x