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07-30-2019, 03:08 AM | #11 (permalink) | |
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I think there's a lot of things wrong with setting out to be a post-rock band.
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07-30-2019, 03:10 AM | #12 (permalink) |
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True, but artists who form their music around a genre concept tend to paint themselves into a corner.
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07-30-2019, 08:23 AM | #15 (permalink) | |
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When you're just repeating tired old cliches to fit a mold with no heart and soul gone into it.
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07-30-2019, 06:00 PM | #16 (permalink) |
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Here's something I've been thinking about. Rules for a new genre.
1. No repeating melodies. An entire song has to be one long, continuous verse. 2. Similarly, no choruses or refrains. Absolutely nothing repeating anywhere. 3. To the greatest extent possible, there should be no discernible beat. Ideally it wouldn't even be in a time signature ... though I guess technically any kind of music could be pegged into some sort of time signature (I'm sure somebody could figure out what time signature a Merzbow song is in if they really wanted to). 4. Not in any discernible key. That would be a good start. There would probably have to be some rules for melodies and harmonies as well.
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07-30-2019, 08:14 PM | #17 (permalink) |
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^You should check out Henry Cow. There are a lot of serialist classical composers who could also fit the bill but they tend to only avoid melodic repetition and I can't think of anyone who checks all of the boxes.
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07-31-2019, 05:17 PM | #19 (permalink) |
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I actually kinda got the idea from some classical composers' songs ("lieder"). If you listen to, say, Schubert's or Schumann's lieder they don't repeat very often, have weak beats, often they have no refrain or choruses and so on. But I was thinking to take that a step further. Plus maybe add some melodic or harmonic rules, as I said. Maybe something like, no major chords, or only major chords, or something.
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07-31-2019, 05:34 PM | #20 (permalink) |
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Another idea for a new genre would be songs patterned after bird songs. Play these at 1/4 speed.
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