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Frownland 12-12-2018 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2023897)
you quite like this word

it is a gothic/Halloween lounge album by a rock band which is pretty unique

though totally understandable if you're not into it, very niche listening

Sounds gimmicky based on this description.

windsock 12-12-2018 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2023897)
you quite like this word

And you seem to like the word "boring" quite a bit yourself. They're just good descriptors.

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2023900)
gimmicky

But that's probably a better term for that spooky scary skeletons bull****.

windsock 12-12-2018 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2024033)
reads like a normie music listeners use of hipster

everything is hipster

Except that's not what I said and "quirky" isn't a word with inherently negative meaning.

rostasi 12-12-2018 04:20 PM

third fucking attempt
(why do I even do this?)

The Batlord 12-12-2018 04:21 PM

Elph doesn't like "hipster" cause it applies so aggressively to him and there's nothing he can do to shake the term.

The Batlord 12-12-2018 04:26 PM

Not when it's you, dip****.

windsock 12-12-2018 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2024039)
yeah but you attributed "forced quirkiness" to a punk band because they have angular guitars I imagine, I don't know

The negative part there is "forced". Again, quirkiness has no inherent negativity, but if feels forced or manufactured-sounding then that's where it turns sour. The same goes for most neutral descriptors, I would imagine.

The reason I called Erase Errata was partly due to the angular guitars, but it was that combined with the horns and the genuinely awful music video that made it appear, at least to me, that much of their presentation was built on a forced sense of quirkiness.

windsock 12-12-2018 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by rostasi (Post 2022333)



I could have ****ing sworn I replied to this. Sorry Ros. It's exams week and I apologize if I skip over some stuff.

I love Red Snapper. Prince Blimey is a fantastic album from them but I've always prefered Our Aim Is To Satisfy. Just curious, did the debut get on the original 1001 Albums You Need to Listen To list? I only ask because Our Aim did and seeing as PB is of similar quality I would only assume that it did as well.

The Juke tune is some great instrumental hip hop (downtempo? I don't know the difference anymore). Traditional Asian music elements add very well to beat-driven music, imo. It reminds me a bit of that one faux-DOOM track called Books of War that was making rounds on YouTube awhile ago. It sampled Ros Serey Sothea, to great effect.

windsock 12-12-2018 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2024062)
there is no negative part it was just an observation of a redundant word because every punk and german underground rock album is going to be "quirky" aka characterized by weird or unexpected traits

I called its quirkiness "forced" and "awkward". Last time I checked, those two adjectives were are fairly negative, especially when applied to music. If I had just called it quirky and acted like solely that was a bad thing you would have a point, but that's not what I did.

windsock 12-12-2018 05:21 PM

Originally I disagreed primarily with your connection between my usage of "quirky", a neutral descriptor, and the term "hipster", which is mainly used as a pejorative. However, I also don't find my usage as redundant because "forced quirkiness" isn't redundant when applying to punk because its a negative attribute. It's not like I'm acting surprised at quirkiness in punk rock, it just so happens that quirkiness sounds really forced and therefore is hard to swallow.


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