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Old 11-04-2018, 01:46 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Whoa, ok, that's broad enough that I'm not entirely sure what you mean.

Plus, I'm getting into new things all the time. "My ****" wouldn't be quite the same now as years ago.

But in any case, I'm incredibly glad metal has, to a large extent, broken away from swords & fantasy, blood & gore, misanthropy & anti-religious screeds. There's an impressively varied rainbow of approaches now more than ever in metal. Of course, even more importantly, musically. Not just in terms of lyrical themes and visual imagery.

Musically, I like colorful bands and just in general music with some dimensions to it. Something like Amaranthe might well just be a fancy of mine with a ticking clock attached to it. Other bands, I'm into in a more deep rooted way. But in any case, I don't have much interest in current metal bands that want to serve me the same dish I would have gotten in 1991.
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Old 11-04-2018, 01:50 PM   #12 (permalink)
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"Your ****" = the kind of **** you just posted.
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I like a whole bunch of metal bands that aren't the same thing, but let's lump them all together.

Anyway, screw what bands specifically I like. I'm defending modern metal in general, even the bands I don't personally like.
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Old 11-04-2018, 02:01 PM   #14 (permalink)
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You posted a symphonic metal band and so I was talking about symphonic metal. I don't know much about Dir En Grey so I'm not talking about Dir En Grey.
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Amaranthe is not symphonic metal in any way. There's no symphonic elements whatsoever. Literally the only symphonic metal I like are a few of the catchier tracks from the two Nightwish albums with Olzon. Oh, and one After Forever album that miraculously didn't suck like the others did.

Amaranthe is closer to a band like Lacuna Coil or something.
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Old 11-04-2018, 02:07 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Yeah no **** you that's heavily derived from symphonic metal. It might be on the more pop spectrum but don't bull****.
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The vocals don't do that faux-opera thing and the hooks are pure pop. There's no trace of the usual goth aesthetic either. It might resemble some symphonic metal in some minor ways, but that's not what it is. I've listened to a lot of symphonic metal albums and none of them sound much like this band.

The riffs in Amaranthe are even more inspired by modern stuff like djent than anything from the symphonic metal playbook, which was more of a power metal and 90's goth metal thing, musically.

But yeah, in some sense, there are similarities. I just don't really find them to be that big.
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Old 11-04-2018, 02:39 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I think I'm a big enough music geek to care about the nuances.

Try explaining to your grandma why grindcore, melodeath and death metal aren't the same thing. Even black metal, for that matter.
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