Which is the best album for Paramore?

GetOffMyLawnKid · 08-24-2018, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy

For someone who talks a big game about knowing music history and what a band should or shouldn’t do, you sure are ignorant on some of the biggest artists to have ever lived

You didn't even know the history of half the bands you mention and that most changed styles before they were famous. I'm not suppose to know about every single band or even care about them, just like I'm positive you don't. Being famous doesn't equal talent. I can't stand the Beatles, Iggy, or Bowie. 60's-70's corny pop at it's worst imo. Give me Hendrix, CCR, Boston, Zeppelin, Skynyrd, Elvis, BB King, 10cc any day.

I don't know everything historically, but when it come to genres I would think it's common knowledge that it impacts more bands than not negatively. And since we are talking about Paramore and their fans and my personal preferences, it effected all negatively when it comes to the original fan-base that helped them to achieve fame.

**Frownland** · 08-24-2018, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GetOffMyLawnKid

You didn't even know the history of half the bands you named and that most changed styles before they were famous so it didn't relate. I'm not suppose to know about every single band or even care about them, just like I'm positive you don't. I don't know everything historically, but when it come to genres, I thought it was fairly common knowledge that it impacts most bands negatively. You can act ignorant all you want.

He already gave you several examples to the contrary. Your ignorance and apathy about them don't discredit that.

GetOffMyLawnKid · 08-24-2018, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

He already gave you several examples to the contrary. Your ignorance and apathy about them don't discredit that.

He gave me examples of bands who changed style before they were established and had more than a club full of fans. Hardly valid examples.

YorkeDaddy · 08-24-2018, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GetOffMyLawnKid

You didn't even know the history of half the bands you named and that most changed styles before they were famous so it didn't relate. I'm not suppose to know about every single band or even care about them, just like I'm positive you don't. I don't know everything historically, but when it come to genres, I thought it was fairly common knowledge that it impacts most bands negatively. You can act ignorant all you want.

You’re even wrong about that. Fleetwood Mac’s 1968 debut was pretty much a straight blues album, and it “reached No. 4 and stayed on the charts 37 weeks, despite the lack of a hit single” (source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flee...ac_(1968_album). Sounds like a big success to me and being the #4 album in the whole UK definitely means you’re famous. Their sound changed pretty dramatically in the 70’s and that’s the Fleetwood Mac everyone thinks of.

The Beastie Boys I’ll give you I guess, they didn’t even release an album until Licensed to Ill.

GetOffMyLawnKid · 08-24-2018, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy

You’re even wrong about that. Fleetwood Mac’s 1968 debut was pretty much a straight blues album, and it “reached No. 4 and stayed on the charts 37 weeks, despite the lack of a hit single”. Sounds like a big success to me and being the #4 album in the whole UK definitely means you’re famous. Their sound changed pretty dramatically in the 70’s and that’s the Fleetwood Mac everyone thinks of.

Eh, not to discount the UK but on the globe it's a very small region. Being successful in one isolated area isn't synonymous with being known. They sold less than 150,000 copies of their debut album from then to now in the US . Only most hardcore fans are aware of their blues era (I think it's their best era but only worked in their favor because pop and rock was in its infancy).

No one sounded like Fleetwood Mac or even The Beatles at that point. FM didn't reach WW exposure until Stevie Nicks joined and they became huge by the mid-70's. What popular bands/singers today could switch styles like that and get away with it? The genres and musical landscape are too realized. They would be destroyed by their fans.

The only two I can think of that switched styles in the past decade or so and did it successfully are Taylor Swift and Miley Cyrus. Mainly because country is currently nothing more than watered down pop with a hint more of "dusty dirt roads" and something about "truck beds". Ughh!!! Hate modern country!

**Frownland** · 08-24-2018, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GetOffMyLawnKid

I can't stand the Beatles, Iggy, or Bowie. 60's-70's corny pop at it's worst imo.

But they were successful so I guess you're wrong about that.

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Originally Posted by GetOffMyLawnKid

He gave me examples of bands who changed style before they were established and had more than a club full of fans. Hardly valid examples.

Iggy, Bowie, and The Beatles all changed styles several times over the course of their career and were successful the whole time. Absolutely valid examples.