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Old 07-20-2018, 01:14 PM   #61 (permalink)
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i find his voice blends in with the instrumentation quite well usually. They are at their worst when his vocals need to carry the song
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On this one your voice is kind of weird but really intense and awesome
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Old 07-20-2018, 01:17 PM   #62 (permalink)
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i find his voice blends in with the instrumentation quite well usually.
I do not. I hate it.

I also don't have a connection to the vocals that's at least 7 years old.
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Old 07-20-2018, 01:36 PM   #63 (permalink)
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The vocals are distractingly terrible, I never notice the music beyond thinking that it'd be better if he would stfu.
That's what I was saying about Yes and Genesis...

Except I didn't even say it got entirely in the way.
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Old 07-20-2018, 01:42 PM   #64 (permalink)
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That's what I was saying about Yes and Genesis...
I can't even appreciate Yorke's voice on a melodic level.

You listen to a lot of vocal-centric music and I think that influences you to pay an unfair amount of attention to vocals sometimes.
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I can't even appreciate Yorke's voice on a melodic level.

You listen to a lot of vocal-centric music and I think that influences you to pay an unfair amount of attention to vocals sometimes.
I can see why you would think that, but I've been listening to instrumental music as long as non-instrumental. I don't write instrumental music because I can't sing either, but because it's what I'm interested in writing.

Sure, I lean towards music with a focus on the singer, but I have to enjoy the music too. Otherwise I wouldn't be interested at all. I also pay very, very little attention to lyrics - to the point of not caring about them at all most of the time. The singer is very much part of a whole to me - like another instrument.

I just find one-note or otherwise underwhelming vocalists to be a net minus. It would be the same if some keyboard player hamfistedly stabbed away at the keys all the time. I'd be thinking "why does that guy need to be there? He's ruining everything!"
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I can see why you would think that, but I've been listening to instrumental music as long as non-instrumental. I don't write instrumental music because I can't sing either, but because it's what I'm interested in writing.
What do you think the ratio is from instrumental to noninstrumental? And how much of the noninstrumental music is vocal-centric?

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Sure, I lean towards music with a focus on the singer, but I have to enjoy the music too.
Then explain why you like Billy Childs.

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I just find one-note or otherwise underwhelming vocalists to be a net minus. It would be the same if some keyboard player hamfistedly stabbed away at the keys all the time. I'd be thinking "why does that guy need to be there? He's ruining everything!"
I liken it more to a bass player who just follows the guitar.
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What do you think the ratio is from instrumental to noninstrumental? And how much of the noninstrumental music is vocal-centric?
I don't listen to music in any way that gives me any metrics, so ****, I don't know. I used to listen to video game soundtracks all the time, but it's more rare now. I still have hundreds of soundtrack .mp3's, some movie and game soundtracks, plus thousands of module tracks (formats like what I write in, but written by other people).

Then there's how you might as well consider extreme metal with only growling as instrumental (regrettable, but true). I listen to less of that now though.

These days, I think I listen to more music with vocals, no doubt, but I'm also listening to more and more classical, and especially the purely instrumental kind. Singer/songwriter-ish material and indie pop/electronica is something I listen to a lot these days for sure. Arguably those are very vocal centric genres, but I look at it as more of a whole. The music and the vocals have to play together closely and add color to each other, or it's just pointless.

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Then explain why you like Billy Childs.
Believe it or not, mostly because of the music. The first track on that "Map to the Treasure" album is what got me to buy the album, and it's 90% because of the music. The singer was something I got used to after the fact and started enjoying.

It was also the connection to Laura Nyro. I still haven't heard any other material from Billy Childs.

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I liken it more to a bass player who just follows the guitar.
That depends on the keyboard player - but often they suck like that.
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