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Old 07-19-2018, 03:19 PM   #81 (permalink)
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This is such a typical parental outlook on hip hop.
And I'm not even a parent. Thank god who doesn't exist.
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That is not the image hip-hop projects, that is the image that you want it to project
No. Ask anyone who isn't into it, knows nothing about it. It's very definitely the popular, mainstream, basic image it projects. You just don't want to see it, and that's fine. But I'm not wrong.
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I am heavily biased against snooty white people more than any other group, yes
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Well yeah. I also posted that because its the wrong outlook to have. It automatically tells me that TH doesn't actively listen to hip hop.

I realize this is the pot calling the kettle black.
I never claimed I did. In the last year or two I've listened to more than I have in the preceding forty-odd, but I'm still not in a rush to experience more.
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There is a lot of truth to this I don't see the issue. Maybe not as much of a problem in the past ten years since it started moving away from that but it is definitely there.
Thank you. At least someone recognises this is the truth.
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They’re similar in the sense that they’re both music.
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Nah the language you used is pretty specific to clueless, white, old people who are at least partly racist. Those specific words, the way they're put together, and the overall tone are exactly this white people stereotype. Much like all of the ethnic jokes you make. You're not so much actively racist as just cringe-inducingly problematic but you absolutely refuse to see it and that makes it worse.
And you're still not black. Sorry man.
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Old 07-19-2018, 03:20 PM   #82 (permalink)
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No. Ask anyone who isn't into it, knows nothing about it. It's very definitely the popular, mainstream, basic image it projects. You just don't want to see it, and that's fine. But I'm not wrong.
If they know nothing about it, they won't be able to tell you anything about it
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Old 07-19-2018, 03:29 PM   #83 (permalink)
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No. Ask anyone who isn't into it, knows nothing about it. It's very definitely the popular, mainstream, basic image it projects. You just don't want to see it, and that's fine. But I'm not wrong.
You’re very wrong. Some of the most forward-thinking people I know are not fans of hip-hop music, but they would never ever describe the genre as a whole in the way you did in the opening post
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Old 07-19-2018, 03:33 PM   #84 (permalink)
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If they know nothing about it, they won't be able to tell you anything about it
You don't have to know about something to tell people about it. You can see it on TV, yeah? It's the perception that colours the view of many people. Goebbels would tell you: it's all about how you send the message.
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You’re very wrong. Some of the most forward-thinking people I know are not fans of hip-hop music, but they would never ever describe the genre as a whole in the way you did in the opening post
And tons of people I know, who are also intelligent people, would say the opposite to you and agree with me. Everyone doesn't think the same. Anyway, I care not: agree to disagree. It's all supposed to be in fun, as I said in the original thread. Don't lose your rag over it. Not worth it.
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Old 07-19-2018, 03:35 PM   #85 (permalink)
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You don't have to know about something to tell people about it. You can see it on TV, yeah? It's the perception that colours the view of many people. Goebbels would tell you: it's all about how you send the message.
Yes, you have to know about something to tell people about it TH. If you do know something about it, then you can't know nothing about it, even if that something is a vague idea from pop culture.
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Old 07-19-2018, 03:36 PM   #86 (permalink)
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Yes, you have to know about something to tell people about it TH. If you do know something about it, then you can't know nothing about it, even if that something is a vague idea from pop culture.
Jeez. Obviously I meant have any more than a surface knowledge of it. Want to split some more hairs? You know what I meant. Shall we say, a TH level knowledge of hip-hop? Does that sound better?
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Old 07-19-2018, 03:40 PM   #87 (permalink)
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And you're still not black. Sorry man.
Maybe you should actually listen to other people. We're trying to tell you something.
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Maybe you should actually listen to other people. We're trying to tell you something.
Hey Bat, I'm not sure you're the right messenger. I mean how many times have you used the N word here and, of course, there was the infamous Hitler avatar. In other words, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

I do agree his OP was a bit cringe worthy though.
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Old 07-19-2018, 03:49 PM   #89 (permalink)
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Hey Bat, I'm not sure you're the right messenger. I mean how many times have you used the N word here and, of course, there was the infamous Hitler avatar. In other words, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

I do agree his OP was a bit cringe worthy though.
I've had many Hitler avatars, the difference is that I'm self-aware and TH isn't and that's a big difference.
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