What Sucks About This Genre: Hip-Hop Edition

**Frownland** · 07-19-2018, 11:12 AM

Everything sucks.

Trollheart · 07-19-2018, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Everything sucks.

You have much to teach us.

YorkeDaddy · 07-19-2018, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

You apparently didn't realise the opening shot was a lighthearted jab at the kind of lyrics you find in hip-hop, but don't tell me that what I said isn't true. It certainly may not be true of ALL hip-hop, and I've not listened to enough to be able to make an informed judgement, but it's clearly the perception outside of the genre, just as "noodling", long solos, multi-part suites and songs about dragons and elves is the general mainstream perception of prog. That impression is not wrong, but there's so much more to prog than that. Similarly, there is, I'm sure, much more to hip-hop than what I wrote, but this is the image it projects. Not my fault it we pick up what they're putting out.

sigh

Trollheart · 07-19-2018, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy

sigh

Sigh yourself. Go on and tell me that this is NOT the image hip-hop PROJECTS. I'm talking about people who hear singles, songs on MTV or whatever, and kids who get into the music for those specific reasons, to be "hard, gangsta" etc. Do you know of any other music that promotes violence in such a direct way? Obviously there are great artists - I'm not saying there aren't. But ask anyone who isn't a fan what Black Metal is about, they'll say "devil worship". Ask the same question about emo, you'll be told whining teens. Ask about hip-hop and the answer will likely be guns, bitches and hoods. It's just how it is. You can sigh all you want, and call me a white old man (which I am) but that doesn't change the fact that this is the image hip-hop presents to the world at large.

rubber soul · 07-19-2018, 11:27 AM

Hey, Yorke. Are you maybe showing a little bias yourself? You're being pretty judgmental and you don't even know us.

**Frownland** · 07-19-2018, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Do you know of any other music that promotes violence in such a direct way?

Powerviolence.

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Originally Posted by rubber soul

Hey, Yorke. Are you maybe showing a little bias yourself? You're being pretty judgmental and you don't even know us.

lol that'll show em

Key · 07-19-2018, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Sigh yourself. Go on and tell me that this is NOT the image hip-hop PROJECTS. I'm talking about people who hear singles, songs on MTV or whatever, and kids who get into the music for those specific reasons, to be "hard, gangsta" etc. Do you know of any other music that promotes violence in such a direct way? Obviously there are great artists - I'm not saying there aren't. But ask anyone who isn't a fan what Black Metal is about, they'll say "devil worship". Ask the same question about emo, you'll be told whining teens. Ask about hip-hop and the answer will likely be guns, bitches and hoods. It's just how it is. You can sigh all you want, and call me a white old man (which I am) but that doesn't change the fact that this is the image hip-hop presents to the world at large.

This is such a typical parental outlook on hip hop.

YorkeDaddy · 07-19-2018, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Sigh yourself. Go on and tell me that this is NOT the image hip-hop PROJECTS. I'm talking about people who hear singles, songs on MTV or whatever, and kids who get into the music for those specific reasons, to be "hard, gangsta" etc. Do you know of any other music that promotes violence in such a direct way? Obviously there are great artists - I'm not saying there aren't. But ask anyone who isn't a fan what Black Metal is about, they'll say "devil worship". Ask the same question about emo, you'll be told whining teens. Ask about hip-hop and the answer will likely be guns, bitches and hoods. It's just how it is. You can sigh all you want, and call me a white old man (which I am) but that doesn't change the fact that this is the image hip-hop presents to the world at large.

That is not the image hip-hop projects, that is the image that you want it to project

YorkeDaddy · 07-19-2018, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by rubber soul

Hey, Yorke. Are you maybe showing a little bias yourself? You're being pretty judgmental and you don't even know us.

I am heavily biased against snooty white people more than any other group, yes

rubber soul · 07-19-2018, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

lol that'll show em

Probably not

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Originally Posted by Kiiii

This is such a typical parental outlook on hip hop.

Yes, parents just don't understand. Sound likes a DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince song, great stalwarts of hip hop that they were

Actually maybe our attitudes aren't unlike the PMRC hearing in the eighties. Back then they were going after the likes of Twisted Sister, Judas Priest, and even Madonna. So you whippersnappers aren't telling us anything we haven't experienced. Indeed the generation that was trying to ban eighties rock n roll had to endure their parents attempts to ban rock n roll in its infancy. In other words, it never ends.

Okay, I'm off my soapbox. Nobody cares, carry on

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