Trollheart

Overblown. Pretentious. Self-indulgent. Three words that in many ways are almost accurate descriptors of the genre. I can see why people hate it: it's not for everyone by any means, but what genre is? Well, some obviously are, but take, I don't know, vaporwave for instance. What's that all about? Some people love it though. But I digest. I mean egress. I mean, something. Anyway...

As fas as MicShaz's ranting about the vocals goes, well as Frown told you, vocals are not a big focus in prog rock, and never were. You may not like them, but Gabriel, Hammill, Anderson, Lee et al are all considered giants in the genre, not because of their vocal stylings but more perhaps because of the atmosphere they engender. Anyway vocals in prog rock generally are about as remarkable as vocals in AOR (subject for a later thread, surely?) but it's all about the music.

That, in itself, a lot of people hate, and I can understand why. Many prog bands (possibly even the majority of them) tend to love doing long, intricate, varied multi-part suites, and I can see why this would not be to everyone's taste, though generally it is to mine. Even so, suites can be good (Genesis's "Supper's Ready", Van der Graaf Generator's "A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers" and Rush's "2112") or not (IQ's "The Last Human Gateway", Porcupine Tree's "Arriving Somewhere But Not Here" and Marillion's "Ocean Cloud") but no matter what, you have to be prepared to invest the time to listen to them, and understandably most people are not.

I understand why a lot of people hate prog. I do. I'm just not one of them.

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Frownland

Objectively incorrect.

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Key

lol k

MicShazam

This is a legit good Mars Volta song:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JphZtpafdKY

Then of course people will tell me how that's one of their poppiest songs and I'm a pleb.
It's not my fault they apparently forget how to make good music when they go too far into improvised territory. Legit good song. Legit annoying band.

Trollheart

You suck.
Love the new avvy!
I am going to guess that it is not.
Oh man I hate Whatever. They are just the worst!
I think if any band (and there is much competition) snag the "most indulgent, self-absorbed and up themselves band" tag, it's the Porcs.
I've seldom been anything but bored by anything I've heard from them. A few good tracks but very sparse.

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MicShazam

I don't know why, but I can listen to classical music go on and on for over an hour, but prog rock usually does nothing for me when the wanking takes off. Not that it usually does before either.

In classical music, I've actually had a harder time adjusting to the stuff with vocals.

YorkeDaddy

Agree. My thoughts on Mars Volta are an upside down bellcurve. Initially I forced myself to like them because it was cool to like them in middle school. Then I started to dislike them because liking bands that were cool to like became stupid to me. Now I like them because idgaf about anything anymore and I just think they have some great songs here and there

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Trollheart

I honestly can say I have never wanked to classical music.

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Frownland

Classical music doesn't really "wank".

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MicShazam

Come on now, you can admit it in here. No one will know except a bunch of highly trustworthy fellows. And a few thousand lurkers.