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Trollheart 07-08-2018 07:25 PM

Anti-semites make terrible music though.

Blank. 07-08-2018 09:38 PM

Never could get into this album. Found it boring.

Trollheart 07-09-2018 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1972313)
Sometimes you’re so damn stubborn

What's stubborn about "Maybe"?? If I'd said "No, I've no intention of trying it again", then yeah. But that's not what I said. I left the possibility open that I might at some point give it another shot. You're impossible sometimes. :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1972315)
This music has survived for 60 years. I don’t dismiss music that has withstood the test of time that easily.

Longevity doesn't equal quality. There is music made in the forties, fifties and even sixties that I would still not consider listening to. That's a crazy argument. Just because it's been around doesn't mean it's good OR bad. As MicShaz says, it ain't about to vanish just due to the passage of time. You think in thirty years a future OH will be pushing the music of Justin Bieber or One Direction using that same argument?
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Originally Posted by Blank. (Post 1972372)
Never could get into this album. Found it boring.

:beer:
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Frownland 07-09-2018 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1972394)
Longevity doesn't equal quality. There is music made in the forties, fifties and even sixties that I would still not consider listening to. That's a crazy argument. Just because it's been around doesn't mean it's good OR bad. As MicShaz says, it ain't about to vanish just due to the passage of time. You think in thirty years a future OH will be pushing the music of Justin Bieber or One Direction using that same argument?

He obviously means longevity of status. "There is music made in the forties, fifties and even sixties that I would still not consider listening to" is the real crazy argument here.

Trollheart 07-09-2018 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1972428)
He obviously means longevity of status. "There is music made in the forties, fifties and even sixties that I would still not consider listening to" is the real crazy argument here.

Bolded: still means nothing. You're the very one who says popularity is no indicator of quality. Make up your mind. As for the rest, no it isn't. I bet there's music made in the past that you would not consider listening to. Just because it's there doesn't mean you have to listen to everything. What do you think I am? A vampire?

Frownland 07-09-2018 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1972438)
Bolded: still means nothing. You're the very one who says popularity is no indicator of quality. Make up your mind. As for the rest, no it isn't. I bet there's music made in the past that you would not consider listening to. Just because it's there doesn't mean you have to listen to everything. What do you think I am? A vampire?

I never said that it was an indicator of quality, just that longevity can be a good reason to give something your time or revisit when you don't "get it". You're more likely to get something valuable out of something that many people have found value in for a long time than an unknown record you came across in bandcamp, right? There are no absolutes in music so don't try to manipulate my post into something obtuse like you just tried to do.

Trollheart 07-09-2018 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1972440)
I never said that it was an indicator of quality, just that longevity can be a good reason to give something your time or revisit when you don't "get it". You're more likely to get something valuable out of something that many people have found value in for a long time than an unknown record you came across in bandcamp, right? There are no absolutes in music so don't try to manipulate my post into something obtuse like you just tried to do.

The point is I said I might, and OH called me stubborn. I didn't say I wouldn't, I said I'd think about it. If that's not good enough for him, I really don't care. This wasn't something that gave me any hope I might get into it at a later date. I usually have a decent idea of whether something is going to click with me from the first listen. Not always the case, but usually it is.

Anyhow, I've no intention of arguing with you, or anyone, about an album I didn't find particularly interesting. Much more worthwhile things to do.

Frownland 07-09-2018 09:28 AM

OH: You should revisit her, she might grow on you a bit.
TH: BUT I DON'T LIKE IT.

Definitely not stubborn.

OccultHawk 07-09-2018 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1972440)
I never said that it was an indicator of quality, just that longevity can be a good reason to give something your time or revisit when you don't "get it". You're more likely to get something valuable out of something that many people have found value in for a long time than an unknown record you came across in bandcamp, right? There are no absolutes in music so don't try to manipulate my post into something obtuse like you just tried to do.

Yes this exactly

I said to this specifically To you TH because I respect your music appreciation skills I’m not taking issue with your opinion

My gut says there’s probably a spot in your heart for her stuff

We’ve talked enough about music to where I’d figure you’d take that into consideration

Neapolitan 07-10-2018 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1972443)
OH: You should revisit her, she might grow on you a bit.
TH: BUT I DON'T LIKE IT.

Definitely not stubborn.

It's not so much stubbornness as it's classic passive-aggressiveness maneuvering. I highly doubt if his inability to enjoy the music of Yma Sumac has anything to do with Yma Sumac herself, her vocal style or her music. I fear his underlying prime psychological reasoning is his animosity towards me. He is subconsciously transferring his dislike of me towards my albums I select for Album Club 2017.


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