MB Bowie Classics: "Scary Monsters (and Super Creeps)"

~~Cuthbert~~ · 06-03-2018, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

I have the same opinion of Bowie that I do of Scorpions: lots of unassailable songs, but no unassailable albums from start to finish. That's my general opinion anyway.

This one's a 3 out of 5 for me.

I don't agree with this at all.

And it seems to have become a trend on here recently. That his albums were just full of filler.

He has at least three unassailable albums from start to finish.

Anteater · 06-03-2018, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Fluff

I don't agree with this at all.

And it seems to have become a trend on here recently. That his albums were just full of filler.

He has at least three unassailable albums from start to finish.

Low and Let's Dance are both really strong albums, along with Aladdin Sane and a few others. But to be fair there's not a lot in my own collection I consider to be unassailable either.

To give you another example, I basically prefer David Sylvian to David Bowie in every way. But even if I like him more, I don't think his records are perfect. The two artists shared a lot of the same collaborators during the early to mid 80's so use that as a reference point.

Trollheart · 06-03-2018, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Fluff

I don't agree with this at all.

And it seems to have become a trend on here recently. That his albums were just full of filler.

He has at least three unassailable albums from start to finish.

For me, of those I know, unassailable albums would be Ziggy, Diamond Dogs, Aladdin Sane, Low and Station to Station. Can't really find a bad track on any of those. There may be others.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 06-03-2018, 10:43 AM

I don't think Diamond Dogs is unassailable. It's slightly above average imo.

The unassailable albums are, for me:

Ziggy
Station to Station
Low
Heroes
Scary Monsters
Blackstar

Unassailable.

~~MicShazam~~ · 06-03-2018, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Fluff

I don't agree with this at all.

And it seems to have become a trend on here recently. That his albums were just full of filler.

He has at least three unassailable albums from start to finish.

While I haven't found many of his albums truly solid from start to finish yet, "filler" would be a bit too harsh a word for many of the songs that I don't quite think are all that great.

**Frownland** · 06-03-2018, 10:54 AM

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Trollheart · 06-03-2018, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Fluff

I don't think Diamond Dogs is unassailable. It's slightly above average imo.

The unassailable albums are, for me:

Ziggy
Station to Station
Low
Heroes
Scary Monsters
Blackstar

Unassailable.

Yeah. See I don't see Heroes as unassailable thanks to Joe the Lion and that Arabia song. Blackstar probably, but I haven't listened to it recently enough to make that determination. Scary Monsters, close, but that Japanese voice at the opening of "It's No Game (No. 1)" bugs me and prevents the album getting the U rating.

Trollheart · 06-04-2018, 11:23 AM

Totally unassailable up to "Scream Like a Baby", where it starts to fade a little. Recovers well though. Still worth a good 4, and a high one.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 06-04-2018, 12:18 PM

Secret Life of Arabia is a great song, it just doesn't fit the structure of the album. It would have made more sense having it at the end of side 1 before the ambient pieces or put on Lodger as it makes more sense on that album. Neukoln should have been the last track on Heroes.

Trollheart · 06-04-2018, 02:08 PM

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~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	I don't think Diamond Dogs is unassailable. It's slightly above average imo. The unassailable albums are, for me: Ziggy Station to Station Low Heroes Scary Monsters Blackstar Unassailable.

06-04-2018, 12:18 PM	#39 (permalink)
~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	Secret Life of Arabia is a great song, it just doesn't fit the structure of the album. It would have made more sense having it at the end of side 1 before the ambient pieces or put on Lodger as it makes more sense on that album. Neukoln should have been the last track on Heroes.