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Old 05-15-2018, 12:13 AM   #191 (permalink)
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I understand. So you were replying to yourself then. Did you learn anything interesting?
I did learn something interesting. Never criticize The Ramones or Black Flag on a music forum otherwise people will start to make irrelevant points about the way you post things on music banter.
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Old 05-15-2018, 12:19 AM   #192 (permalink)
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not

a

pop punk

album
But, I thought punk was pop.
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Old 05-15-2018, 12:59 AM   #193 (permalink)
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If the Ramones aren't pop punk, then nothing is. They were no less smoothed out, happy clappy, mainstream friendly and neutered than Green Day, Blink and company were.
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:12 AM   #194 (permalink)
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you wouldn't say pop pop would you
So punk isn't real. Got it.

Note to self: Sex Pistols are a pop band. Same thing as the Beatles.




Exact same thing. Zero difference. Can't tell who's the Beatles and who's the Sex Pistols.
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:15 AM   #195 (permalink)
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not

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pop punk

album
Yes

It

Is

It's punk, right? It prominently features delicious pop hooks, right? Therefore, pop punk.
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Have you guys heard this new punk artist? Check this out.
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:20 AM   #197 (permalink)
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this is all of first wave punk besides maybe Television
Maybe all of first wave punk is pop punk. Maybe pop punk is one of the earliest punk subgenres.
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:30 AM   #198 (permalink)
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it's not

you just don't actually know anything about punk
Yeah, he doesn't know punk like us. Check out this punk band, I think you're gonna like it:

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you wouldn't call The Beatles "pop rock"

you would call them pop

or you would call them rock
Yes you would... They were a pop band that used rock music to produce their sound. They made pop rock. It's a common term.
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Old 05-15-2018, 01:33 AM   #200 (permalink)
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it's not

you just don't actually know anything about punk
Please enlighten me, oh pretentious one. I need your annoying punker than thou attitude to guide me out of my foolishness.
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