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Meh 6 60.00%
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Old 05-10-2018, 06:38 PM   #21 (permalink)
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‘97 isn’t early enough to earn any pioneering credits. It’s club music that doesn’t really keep me that interested.
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Old 05-11-2018, 02:25 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I beg to differ. How can you not like Tracey Thorn on 'The Tree Knows Everything' or the cruisy title track? This isn't some generic techno: it explores a variety of styles outside its core genre and explores some fairly compelling melodic territory in the process.
Whether this is true or not would depend on who's listening.

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I don't know why you're such a stickler about something like this yet can praise comparatively abstract hip-hop or generic K-pop.
Apples and Oranges?

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Anyway, I've checked out the album myself and here's what I think about it:

The album does go to a variety of places, but there's a very particular 90's electronic music style that forms the base for most of it. I'm not sure what to call it (EDIT: drum and bass, I guess) and it's not anything I'd ever listen to on my own, but let's say that it's this kind of electronic music that sounds like many a mid 90's Playstation 1 soundtrack. I can't tell you how many run off the mill action games I've played with these sorts of beats and bass lines.

Colours doesn't add up to a bad album for me, but I'm no a fan of the very wallpaper-y quality of it. I'm finding it very difficult to stay interested in these tracks, so all of them feel like they run a minute or two over time and I'm getting fidgety.

There's a fair degree of sonic variety, some good ideas spread across most of the album, but I'm just not engaged by this at all. I'm a very active music listener and this album is begging to stay in the background. It's the same reason why I never like any ambient albums.

It's probably very well made for what it is, but I have to give a score according to my personal experience with the album: voted "meh".

EDIT: Totally admit to writing this before I was all the way through the album. But I do insist on listening to every last second of an album club entry, so I had a few more thoughts after the final track had rolled on by. "Aromatherapy" - the 7 minute track the album ends on - is the best track on the album. I really like some of the sounds used here, especially the shimmering keyboard hook that opens and closes the track. Still, I can't really say that I'm going to be itching to come back to any of this, but if all of the album had been of the caliber of that final track, I'd have bumped the score up one notch.

On another note, I think it would be great if I could give every album club 2-4 complete run throughs (like I did in the beginning), but it's not realistic. At least I always make sure to hear the whole thing, even if I hate it, just in case it breaks with my expectations. It's only fair to give people's albums a proper chance. I don't actually know what everyone else's approach is, but to me, at least 1.0 proper listens is a minimum. This particular album was over one hour long... and it felt like it too... Some albums are easier to be fair about than others (I would like to apologize to everyone for that Madredeus album, btw).

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Old 05-11-2018, 06:20 AM   #23 (permalink)
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I beg to differ. How can you not like Tracey Thorn on 'The Tree Knows Everything' or the cruisy title track? This isn't some generic techno: it explores a variety of styles outside its core genre and explores some fairly compelling melodic territory in the process. I don't know why you're such a stickler about something like this yet can praise comparatively abstract hip-hop or generic K-pop.

Medium - Adam F  —  Colours. The story behind the best drum ’n’ bass album of the 90s
Strangely, I don't remember reading this post, or else I skimmed it, so when Shaz quoted it I was like "wtf?" Now I'll respond to the bolded bit.

First, I'm not a "stickler" for "something like this", but I do have to admit I don't know what you're referring to. Not liking techno music? Boring music? Wallpaper music? Not sure how, if that's what you mean, I could be considered a "stickler" for any of that. What I am a stickler for is music I enjoy, music that holds my attention, music that moves me (one way or the other) and music I look forward to either coming back to or expanding upon.
This ticked none of those boxes.

I already wrote how I found it boring and really couldn't wait for it to end. I've also written I'm no fan of techno, but if you look through my defunct Albums of 2017 thread you'll see that I listened to, and was impressed by, some techno albums I came across. This was not one of them, and they were in general a lot more engaging than this one.

As for hip-hop? I've hated/been bored by plenty of the hip-hop I've listened to, but I've also been very impressed by a lot of it, which I did not expect to be. I do however try to give everything a chance. K-pop?? Where are you coming from with that? I pretty much hated/was bored by most of the slew of K-pop I ended up listening to, the only good thing being that the girl bands had cute voices and some good songs, but mostly it was copy-and-paste generic crap. So I would not consider myself a fan of K-pop, and since I closed the thread I have not touched a K-pop album, nor do I think I will.

Maybe this is a bad example of the genre (though you seem to think it's the pinnacle) so if you want, outside of the club structure, rec me one or two more albums (not by him) in the same vein and I'll see if I can get anything from them. But I won't be changing my mind on this one. For me, the only "colours" I heard were grey and a pale, wishy-washy beige.

Sorry, but Adam can F off.
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It isn't 'Techno', it's 'Atmospheric/Intellegent Drum & Bass'/'Jazzstep' you ****ing normies m8.
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rec me more than two albums (not by him) in the same vein.
Aight;

4Hero - Parallel Universe
Guardians of Dalliance - Diffusion Rooms
Goldie - Timeless
Aquasky - Orange Dust
Rowpieces - Cosmic Funk EP
LTJ Bukem - Logical Progression Vol. 1
Lenzman - Earth Tones
Calibre - Even If...


(entry mix) Jazz & Bass Vol. 2

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It isn't 'Techno', it's 'Atmospheric/Intellegent Drum & Bass'/'Jazzstep' you ****ing normies m8.
Like that's going to make a difference to me... Boring is what it is.
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4Hero - Parallel Universe
Guardians of Dalliance - Diffusion Rooms
Goldie - Timeless
Aquasky - Orange Dust
Rowpieces - Cosmic Funk EP
LTJ Bukem - Logical Progression Vol. 1
Lenzman - Earth Tones
Calibre - Even If...


(entry mix) Jazz & Bass Vol. 2

The offer was aimed at Ant, but maybe. No way am I listening to all of those though. Pick, um, three you think I might like.
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Anyone got a link? There's a full album on youtube but it's blocked in the US.
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Maybe this is a bad example of the genre (though you seem to think it's the pinnacle) so if you want, outside of the club structure, rec me one or two more albums (not by him) in the same vein and I'll see if I can get anything from them. But I won't be changing my mind on this one. For me, the only "colours" I heard were grey and a pale, wishy-washy beige.

Sorry, but Adam can F off.
It isn't a bad example of the genre. That's the point. It received nearly universal critical acclaim. Atmospheric drum n' bass is like perfect driving music, and its purpose isn't all that different from good ambient. It engages subconsciously.

The main reason I suggested Colours is that its one of the few cases where someone deep into the scene attempted to appeal to people outside of the genre's core audience. Variety and all that. Goldie (in his own way) attempted that feat with Timeless around '95, and that album is a major touchstone for electronic / EDM music in general of the era, not just jungle. But it would have been sad to see that one ripped apart, so I picked something a bit more accessible.

I'll give the man (or woman) who can get you into stuff along these lines or jazz a medal.

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It isn't a bad example of the genre. That's the point. It received nearly universal critical acclaim. Atmospheric drum n' bass is like perfect driving music, and its purpose isn't all that different from good ambient. It engages subconsciously.

The main reason I suggested Colours is that its one of the few cases where someone deep into the scene attempted to appeal to people outside of the genre's core audience. Variety and all that. Goldie (in his own way) attempted that feat with Timeless around '95, and that album is a major touchstone for electronic / EDM music in general of the era, not just jungle. But it would have been sad to see that one ripped apart, so I picked something a bit more accessible.

I'll give the man (or woman) who can get you into stuff along these lines or jazz a medal.

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https://open.spotify.com/album/46mzpy3WxTaNpJm1Bqpkho

I can also be pre-2012 and share a zip file with you or something.
Let's see. I enjoyed this
Ten Walls – Queen

this

CLAVVS – World underwater

this

Andrew Rayel – Moments

and this
Carl Craig – Versus

Just to name a few. So I'm not opposed to electro/techno/dance/whatever. I just didn't and don't like that album.
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