MB Classics: Madvillain - Madvillainy

Akai · 05-03-2018, 12:49 AM

Best thing hes ever done along with food and doomsday imo.

The abstract atmos on this is some of the best I've heard on a hip hop record.

Some of the best production, bass lines and sampling I've heard on a hip hop record.

Perfect run time for a hip hop record of this calibre as it doesn't overstay it's welcome.

Some of madlibs best stuff on this thing too.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 05-03-2018, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Akai

Some of madlibs best stuff on this thing too.

not even close. it’s a 10 for me as i mentioned but if i absolutely had to pick a flaw it would be that i feel madlib could’ve done a bit more on the production side. listen to any of his Quasimoto album’s and the production is twice as spectacular.

OccultHawk · 05-03-2018, 06:43 AM

It’s not that it’s bad but Mos Def and DLS like it because it pays tribute

I know that Odd Future likes it too and that’s a better argument

OF did something significant to build on it though

That’s why OF, especially Tyler and Earl are far more important artists

Black Francis · 05-03-2018, 07:57 AM

So now i get to debate DOOM is better than OF.

Short answer is.. Yes.

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OF did something significant to build on it though

That’s why OF, especially Tyler and Earl are far more important artists

But DOOM is a better rapper. I don't listen to Earl but i do listen to Tyler and while he is good DOOM has got a better pen. Well, that all depends i guess. DOOM is way more subtle than Tyler and has whittier analogies but Tyler goes for the shock value. One of his rhymes that stuck with me goes "Goddamn I love bitches, Especially when they only suck dick and wash dishes" so if you're into that in your face sht over clever penmanship you might prefer Tyler.

Also in terms of impact in hip hop, OF and Tyler gained alot of popularity through their videos while DOOM never really made shocking videos like them. He certainly doesn't have a stronger visual presentation than them but then again he doesn't need it cause his music alone carries his cred.

OccultHawk · 05-03-2018, 06:45 AM

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i don't like the white stripes much

Exactly. Most everyone here knows their guitar bands and what’s what

Hip hop? It’s a lot murkier around here

**Frownland** · 05-03-2018, 07:25 AM

It soumds like you just don't want people to expand and develop on ideas once someone comes out with them. If that's the case, we should just stop making jazz because Coltrane happened.

This has aged a lot better than Deltron imo. Tribe and Wu still hold up though. Have you ever appreciated more than one artist at the same time?

I also like Brötzmann more than Pharoah Sanders but love Pharoah to death.

**Frownland** · 05-03-2018, 08:07 AM

Listen to Earl dude, he took the torch. When it comes to Earl v DOOM it's a wash imo.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 05-03-2018, 09:22 AM

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Listen to Earl dude, he took the torch. When it comes to Earl v DOOM it's a wash imo.

x2

earl is what people hail kendrick to be

still waiting on one more project to really cement that though, but everything he’s done from Sly Tendancies forward has been elite.

Black Francis · 05-04-2018, 12:26 AM

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Can I please get a mulligan?

It's all good bruh

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Listen to Earl dude, he took the torch. When it comes to Earl v DOOM it's a wash imo.

Nah, it can't be. I listened to some his stuff but his flow to me is so slow and monotonous i couldn't really appreciate his rhymes. I'm basing that on the only album ive heard from him, I don't do sht i don't go outside.

**Frownland** · 05-04-2018, 08:07 AM

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Nah, it can't be. I listened to some his stuff but his flow to me is so slow and monotonous i couldn't really appreciate his rhymes. I'm basing that on the only album ive heard from him, I don't do sht i don't go outside.

His flow blows my mind tbh. Twists and turns and crazy rhyme schemes as well.

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05-03-2018, 12:49 AM	#1 (permalink)
Akai Godless Ape Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Britannia Posts: 1,255	Best thing hes ever done along with food and doomsday imo. The abstract atmos on this is some of the best I've heard on a hip hop record. Some of the best production, bass lines and sampling I've heard on a hip hop record. Perfect run time for a hip hop record of this calibre as it doesn't overstay it's welcome. Some of madlibs best stuff on this thing too. __________________ ''To be honest, in my opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter from a different perspective and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I do believe that I forgot what I was going to say.'' S p o t i f y

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05-03-2018, 07:25 AM	#6 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	It soumds like you just don't want people to expand and develop on ideas once someone comes out with them. If that's the case, we should just stop making jazz because Coltrane happened. This has aged a lot better than Deltron imo. Tribe and Wu still hold up though. Have you ever appreciated more than one artist at the same time? I also like Brötzmann more than Pharoah Sanders but love Pharoah to death. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

05-03-2018, 08:07 AM	#7 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Listen to Earl dude, he took the torch. When it comes to Earl v DOOM it's a wash imo. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x