The Album Club: "Rhythm of Love" by Kylie Minogue

~~MicShazam~~ · 05-05-2018, 06:51 AM

I don't really have an opinion about them, honestly.

Anteater · 05-05-2018, 09:14 AM

MicShazam, I actually enjoy the 80's and early 90's pop sound. Like a lot of dance pop records from that period, I just don't think the "hits" were as good as a few of the B-sides in this particular case, hence my rating. If all the tracks had been as good as 'The World Still Turns' or 'Count The Days' or that one you mentioned, I'd have likely bumped my rating up around 8 because if its good dance pop, then its good regardless of the era or production.

Remember, I was the one who had everyone review the 1991 Seal debut a few months ago (which got trashed for similar reasons to Rhythm Of Love despite being a much stronger album compositionally).

Long story short, a lot of people get hung up about production and rawness vs more polished / mechanical sounding production and for some people its an issue they can't circumvent. So the deck was stacked against this even if the songwriting had been better than it is.

~~MicShazam~~ · 05-05-2018, 12:01 PM

I don't mind it being voted low anyway. I'm just curious to see what people think about whatever random album I feel like picking for the club. 99% of the stuff I like the most will have most members shrugging or gagging, so I'm not going to strain to finde the needle in the haystack (i.e. the one album in a 100 that might get an unexpectedly positive reaction). I've got my expectations in check, so it's cool. The real question is how long people can put up with my choices before they want me to leave

About production, then I've definitely noticed criticisms of various albums being "over produced" coming up in all sorts of threads with some frequency. Personally, I'm all about whatever I think fits the album in question. A lot of things I like are very tampered with in the studio, but also a lot isn't like that. Whatever fits. I enjoy both if done well.

Trollheart · 05-05-2018, 08:50 PM

I've no problem with production, but a production/assembly line like SAW made out of all their artists' music? No. Listen to any album produced by those ****s and you'll be hard-pressed to say whose it is. It's just the same ****ing thing over and over and over and over again. I should be so lucky (lucky, lucky, lucky)...

Well one thing you can say about your picks, Mix (I think I'm gonna settle on calling you that, short for MicShaz - so like, mix-az, less you have a problem with that? Don't want to call you MS for obvious reasons) is that they engender discussion, even if it is vitriolic or mocking. At least nobody ignores them.

Neapolitan · 05-05-2018, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

I've no problem with production, but a production/assembly line like SAW made out of all their artists' music? No. Listen to any album produced by those ****s and you'll be hard-pressed to say whose it is. It's just the same ****ing thing over and over and over and over again. I should be so lucky (lucky, lucky, lucky)...

Well one thing you can say about your picks, Mix (I think I'm gonna settle on calling you that, short for MicShaz - so like, mix-az, less you have a problem with that? Don't want to call you MS for obvious reasons) is that they engender discussion, even if it is vitriolic or mocking. At least nobody ignores them.

It's my job to pick albums that get ignore.

~~MicShazam~~ · 05-06-2018, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

I've no problem with production, but a production/assembly line like SAW made out of all their artists' music? No. Listen to any album produced by those ****s and you'll be hard-pressed to say whose it is.
It's just the same ****ing thing over and over and over and over again. I should be so lucky (lucky, lucky, lucky)...

Probably helps me that I'm not familiar with much of that. Plus Kylie's voice is on this album and not on the other ones. Is this where I should mention that I actually don't mind Never Gonna Give You Up?

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Well one thing you can say about your picks, Mix (I think I'm gonna settle on calling you that, short for MicShaz - so like, mix-az, less you have a problem with that? Don't want to call you MS for obvious reasons)

Aargh! Please don't! You'll make me feel like a bag of mixed nuts. How about just Mic? Same amount of letters and someone's even called me that in real life.

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

is that they engender discussion, even if it is vitriolic or mocking. At least nobody ignores them.

The funny thing is that, if anything, I've tried to avoid picking albums that people hate much of the time. Certainly never picked one because I hoped it would get people fuming.

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It's my job to pick albums that get ignore.

I did like the music on last week's album and the one you've got for next round looks interesting.

Trollheart · 05-06-2018, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam

Probably helps me that I'm not familiar with much of that. Plus Kylie's voice is on this album and not on the other ones. Is this where I should mention that I actually don't mind Never Gonna Give You Up?

Ah, who doesn't love that? Astley's voice is boss. But look at some of the other acts they "produced" and you'll see what I mean, seriously.

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Aargh! Please don't! You'll make me feel like a bag of mixed nuts. How about just Mic? Same amount of letters and someone's even called me that in real life.

Too late! You've been christened as Mix in the soon-to-be-approved-may-already-be Monthly Update. But I'll not use it in future if it bugs you. Just Mic makes you sound like you hail from the fair shores of Erin, like me.

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The funny thing is that, if anything, I've tried to avoid picking albums that people hate much of the time. Certainly never picked one because I hoped it would get people fuming.

Neither did I. Just kind of seems to end up that way nearly every time. Can't please every/anyone.

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I did like the music on last week's album and the one you've got for next round looks interesting.

Yeah the Elizabeth Cotten one was cool.

Black Francis · 05-12-2018, 04:22 PM

This is so 90's it's funny, i gotta say, the drum beats in this album annoyed the hell outta me and aside from Shocked and Count the days i found the songs very bland and forgettable. Not enough hooks on this thing to keep me interested.

Trollheart · 05-12-2018, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis

This is so 90's it's funny, i gotta say, the drum beats in this album annoyed the hell outta me and aside from Shocked and Count the days i found the songs very bland and forgettable. Not enough hooks on this thing to keep me interested.

Yep, those drumbeats can be found, identical ones, in any album produced by SAW.

grindy · 05-13-2018, 01:49 AM

View Poll Results: How Much Did You Enjoy The Album?
Loved it	0	0%
Liked it	1	14.29%
Meh	2	28.57%
Disliked it	0	0%
Hated it	4	57.14%
Voters: 7. You may not vote on this poll

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~~MicShazam~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Aalborg Posts: 7,634	I don't really have an opinion about them, honestly.

05-05-2018, 12:01 PM	#33 (permalink)
~~MicShazam~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Aalborg Posts: 7,634	I don't mind it being voted low anyway. I'm just curious to see what people think about whatever random album I feel like picking for the club. 99% of the stuff I like the most will have most members shrugging or gagging, so I'm not going to strain to finde the needle in the haystack (i.e. the one album in a 100 that might get an unexpectedly positive reaction). I've got my expectations in check, so it's cool. The real question is how long people can put up with my choices before they want me to leave About production, then I've definitely noticed criticisms of various albums being "over produced" coming up in all sorts of threads with some frequency. Personally, I'm all about whatever I think fits the album in question. A lot of things I like are very tampered with in the studio, but also a lot isn't like that. Whatever fits. I enjoy both if done well.