Things that I will never understand:
The popularity of watching sports
String theory
Recommending people tracks off of Meddle that aren't Echoes

It's too long and ambienty for the casual listener.
Obviously orgasmically fantastic though.

Allright. I can say right away that Saucerful of secrets seems more fun than Dark Side of the Moon. That's always something.

Help me out here. I don't really know where who of the bands past vocalists are singing.

Chula Vista,

For me its idiotic and limited when someone force their view onto others.

*cough* http://www.musicbanter.com/general-m...te-grunge.html *cough*

I remember from a discussion on a metal forum somewhere what this death metal/black metal guy said. When he had tried to turn his "normie" friends on to metal by going easy on them, they didn't really get into it. Then he took off the kid gloves and showed a friend some crazy, underground black metal and the guy loved it.

It makes sense in a way. If you're gonna recommend something, put your best foot forward instead of trying too hard to make it welcoming. I always try to remember that.

Are you not familiar with MB yet?

So far, listening to this track and the first two tracks off Saucerful of Secrets, I get a crepping suspicion that Dark Side of the Moon is actually Pink Floyd at their most boring.

Wait until you check out Animals or Wish You Were Here!

Oh boy, I can't wait!

Seriously, this thing here alone destroys that entire Dull Side of the Moon album with ease:

I think that Saucerful is a lot better as well, but I recced DSOTM because Saucerful was made during the Syd Barrett era of Floyd. When Barrett left and they added Gilmour, they got their most well-known lineup and DSOTM is the best representative of the "classic Floyd sound" that they developed and built on with that lineup.

I would assume you know this classic, but then you chickened out of The Wall after a few tracks so maybe not. You need to hear this at least once in your life though.

Yeah I know that one pretty well. I probably know all their most famous songs off The Wall well enough. Probably also some form a couple other albums.

On Comfortably Numb: Some nice guitar playing here and there, but the song isn't really clicking with me. It's giving me Bryan Adams flashbacks.



That's not praise btw.

Pretty sure everyone on Earth has heard that song more times than they care to.

I love Pink Floyd, but their personalities are unbearable. It's hard to find a crew as unlikable, personality wise, as these guys. Furthermore, their discography tends to be very hit or miss. One more thing, they're great songs, but I am so sick of Comfortably Numb and Another Brick In The Wall Part 2.

I wanna do one of these for my favorite band, Weezer.

Great track up until the goddamn children's choir. Nobody needs that ****.

Bryan Adams? You just take that back!
Ever.

After the first album, both Gilmour and Waters (and also occasionally Wright) sang during their heyday, with Gilmour doing vocals on the majority of the songs in the late 60s/early 70s and Waters slowly taking over the band over the course of the 70s, to the point where he was singing nearly every song up through the early 80s. He sings the last two tracks on DSOTM. He's usually the singer who sounds more pained and angsty, while Gilmour usually sounds more low-key and melodic.

Mind blowing live version of Dogs after Pigs on the Wing I. Snowy White and Doyle Bramhall for the win.

lol

More opinions about Floyd if anyone is interested:- http://www.musicbanter.com/prog-psyc...oyd-album.html

I'm sure I've said this elsewhere, but I see Atom Heart Mother as the big turning point with PF. Everything up to and including AHM was exploratory and innovative, everything afterwards was about Floyd backpeddling or consolidating their sound/reputation. For example, Saucerful and Ummagumma had chunks of improvised psychedelic jam material, but my impression is that once they started filling stadiums with their fans, they got scared of music that wasn't choreographed down to the last note. In that sense they became victims of their own success, although Waters did try to break out of Floyd's ponderous polished style with Final Cut .

Here's my rundown of some of their other albums:

Piper: some nice songs, but some of the experiments in whimsical pop sound like little more than advertising jingles today. I prefer Barratt's more mature solo albums.
Meddle: Gilmour probably has toilet-training issues. After the bold inspiration of Atom Heart Mother, this album is an exercise in cleaning, polishing and tidying up.
DSOTM: Money has a really clever start, but the rest of the album is too careful to be interesting.
Wish You Were Here: Although they hated reporters banging on about crazy Barratt, they decided to make an album about him. Very misguided imo.
The Wall: At last some consistently good lyrics from Big Bad Roge, this album has some great songs and I like the whole postwar-guilt thing too, partly because I saw it happening; a whole generation in the UK was brought up with the idea that they weren't worthy of the sacrifice their dead dad's had made.

I rather overplayed Floyd in younger days, so I never really listen to them now. At a pinch, I can still enjoy:

1. Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast
2. One of These Days
3. Remember a Day
4. The Gunner's Dream
5. Nobody Home

^ Get listening if you like, Batlord, but you may well hate them all. ;)

In the studio I think that approach worked great. I would have loved to have seen them live too BUT one time I was watching a video of them live and I forget what song but there was a very methodical flow keyboard solo just like the record and I was definitely thinking that would have been a great chance to branch out and do something.

Zeppelin wasn’t afraid to push it on stage.

Yes, their albums were famous for that flawless precision of sound, which is nice when you're in the mood for it.

I saw Floyd at a festival one time, and although I was a long way away, the sun was setting behind the stage as they were playing, so it was a very Floydy kind of moment. Rather tellingly, I have absolutely no memory of what they played !

They're meticulously strung out.

That’s cool!

Was listening to Saucerful of Secrets last night and it was actually my best impression of Floyd to date, so I'm a bit more open atm.

Was never a fan of how Gilmour "composed" his solos. He'd improvise say a dozen different solos and then cut and paste the best bits of each and then "learn" the results.

To me, that honestly sounds like a pretty good idea. Could be a great way to hit the sweet spot between something improvised and directly expressive and something more memorable.

That’s pretty cool, actually.

Where did you read that?

I'm certain that he did it on Animals, but I don't remember seeing if that was his overall style.

Many years ago in a Guitar Player Magazine interview.

Check out the live disc from Ummagumma then.

^ Thanks for that bit of info that supports what I was saying, Chula. As MicShazam suggests, it doesn't sound like a bad scheme to work by, but of course with too much tweaking around and improving you can really lose that rough edge of conviction that I like to hear.

^ That's good! You should take Frownland's advice, then squeeze in Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast so that we can enthuse about it at length by PM.

God I love them!!!!!

I have some of thier 70s albums!

1) The piper at the gates of dawn - Record (1973 re-issue)
2) Meddle - Record
3) Dark side of the moon - Record/8 track
4) Wish you were here - Record
5) The wall - Record

After THE WALL they go downhill...... Thier 1982 album is thier last 100% analogue sourced record but it sucks!! (In my opinion anyway)

I would say thier BEST album is the first with SYD!!


I also have PINK FLOYD LIVE IN POMPEII (1972) on VHS -- Excellent!!

I have (or had?) that on vhs too.

I love The Final Cut.

The more polished Floyd got, the better they got IMO. Us & Them <3

:beer:

One of Water's best works. Two Suns in the Sunset is one of the most haunting songs ever written.

In my rear view mirror the sun is going down
Sinking behind bridges in the road
And I think of all the good things
That we have left undone
And I suffer premonitions
Confirm suspicions
Of the holocaust to come
The wire that holds the cork
That keeps the anger in
Gives way
And suddenly it's day again
The sun is in the east
Even though the day is done
Two suns in the sunset
Could be the human race is run
Like the moment when your brakes lock
And you slide toward the big truck
And stretch the frozen moments with your fear
And you'll never hear their voices
And you'll never see their faces
You have no recourse to the law anymore
And as the windshield melts
My tears evaporate
Leaving only charcoal to defend
Finally I understand
The feelings of the few
Ashes and diamonds
Foe and friend
We were all equal in the end

Still don't understand why Shine On gets so much hate haha but hey we all like different things.
I personally think the Barrett era was sooo boring, with two excpetions (See Emily Play and Arnold Layne)
When Gilmour joined, they recorded some really awful things like Ummagumma, Atom Heart Mother, etc.
They start getting better with Meddle, another bad one, but with the exception of Echoes (which, despite being amazing, is unnecessarily long)
The Dark Side Of The Moon and Wish You Were Here show Pink Floyd at their best, when they worked together as a band.
Animals is a dark album, difficult to follow at many points. In my opinion, the only good track is Pigs (Three Different Ones). I think it clearly shows that Roger Waters thinks he's Pink Floyd and no one else is.
The Wall is a very interesting album and a brilliant idea from Waters, but if you don't understand English, know what is it about or you don't watch the movie, you can't follow it or enjoy it. But it was a very impressing project, with highlights such as Another Brick In The Wall Pt.2 or Comfortably Numb.
Now, all the stuff they did later is just so awful and crappy. The Final Cut wasn't a group project either, and although I don't like Waters's dictator personality, that album should've been the last thing Pink Floyd did. I don't get why the rest decided to continue without him. Pink Floyd was mainly Waters and Gilmour (Mason and Wright had their importance too, but c'mon), without one of them, Pink Floyd should've disbanded instead of behaving like selfish 3yr old kids.
P.S. Shine On You Crazy Diamond is my all-time favourite song hehehe so be careful (nah everyone's free to express their opinions)

You should just focus on what you do like and consider what you don’t like “on hold” and reserve judgment