What Sucks about This Artist?: Pink Floyd

Guybrush · 09-23-2021, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

That's their identity schtick, I'd think that would help Floyd's rep.

Because new boomer listeners are latching on to them?

**Frownland** · 09-23-2021, 03:43 PM

Nah not new boomers, new old time boomer rock listeners.

Guybrush · 09-23-2021, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Nah not new boomers, new old time boomer rock listeners.

I would suspect influx of new fans might be offset by old fans getting old and dying

but maybe not. It could be increasing.

In my own experience, I feel like they're a lot less talked about now than they were in the 90s. But that's just Norway, of course.

Lisnaholic · 09-23-2021, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Guybrush

I believe PF are considered more boring in 2021 than in 1980, despite the open hostility towards prog at the time. Not necessarily to people like me who were weaned on them and will forever love them, but to potential new listeners. And people do dismiss without engaging with the music all the time.

As a person becoming interested in music, you'll probably hear the name Pink Floyd still. But what is there to tempt them to put a record on? There's something, of course, it's one of the biggest rock bands to ever exist and also one of the most successful. But from another perspective it might also obviously be old time boomer rock. I may be presumptuous, but I'm just guessing that, as old artists compete with new artists on streaming services, there's gonna be a trend of slowly dwindling popularity for bands like PF where people instead wanna listen to the latest Taylor Quick or some other artist who is current, trendy and more available in various forms of media. I think people like things they can relate to and the older something becomes, the less relatable it's gonna be off-hand. The band predates any real subculture that a new listener might derive some sense of identity from, so that kind of sub-cultural access to listeners is also going to dwindle over time. Some of the intricate potential reasons for dismissal, while complex, may be summed up as boring.

And you can also get into the shape of music. It's a long time since long ass prog songs were commercially viable. A lot of young people grew up with music that was louder, perhaps more aggressive, more extreme in the things they convey or focusing more on relatable experiences, most likely more immediate. Their tastes may be shaped by that and something like Echoes might seem comparatively more boring when compared to the output of more current artists.

Those are some good points, guybrush, but haven't you missed something simpler? That they used to be innovative, but now they're not?

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Originally Posted by elphenor

Pink Floyd doesn't have an identity because they were quite boring people outside Syd

That's part of the story. They also made a deliberate choice: they didn't want to be pin-up rock idols. It was all about the AOR music experience - which is incidently why I find their live stuff pretty disappointing.

Anteater · 09-26-2021, 04:07 PM

'Welcome To The Machine' is such a cool song that I can forgive their occasional snoozefest.

LEGALISE DRUGS AND MURDER · 09-27-2021, 03:46 PM

@OP

Shut up

You are wrong about pink Floyd.

The Batlord · 09-27-2021, 04:48 PM

More like Stink Turd.

Mindy · 09-27-2021, 07:56 PM

not a fan of them really

Tubeileh · 09-28-2021, 05:39 PM

Uh I personally really like Pink Floyd, but this is the first time I see people straight up dislike them. And I wonder why, I mean some vague reasons were given, but maybe some more details? I Think "more" is trash, but The Dark Side of the Moon is good, and there is a reason why it got popular. But most of all, you cannot deny that "The Wall" is a masterpiece. I've spent the last 3 months reading and learning about it, and there are still things that I find new in it. And if something like "The Wall" is trash, then "Abbey Road" (for example) most be trash too. I personally think it is great, but I do not think the message or idea is deeper or more interesting than the wall. So yeah I am just confused on why people don't like pink floyd.

The Batlord · 09-28-2021, 05:51 PM

Cause they're ****ing boring and I can feel my eyeballs drying while listening to them so I blink more than I need to. Ain't nobody got time for dat!

09-23-2021, 03:43 PM	#202 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Nah not new boomers, new old time boomer rock listeners. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

09-27-2021, 03:46 PM	#206 (permalink)
LEGALISE DRUGS AND MURDER Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2021 Posts: 94	@OP Shut up You are wrong about pink Floyd.

09-27-2021, 07:56 PM	#208 (permalink)
Mindy ask me about cosmology Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Milky Way Galaxy Posts: 9,071	not a fan of them really

09-28-2021, 05:39 PM	#209 (permalink)
Tubeileh doo doo water Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: YOur Mom's House Posts: 104	Uh I personally really like Pink Floyd, but this is the first time I see people straight up dislike them. And I wonder why, I mean some vague reasons were given, but maybe some more details? I Think "more" is trash, but The Dark Side of the Moon is good, and there is a reason why it got popular. But most of all, you cannot deny that "The Wall" is a masterpiece. I've spent the last 3 months reading and learning about it, and there are still things that I find new in it. And if something like "The Wall" is trash, then "Abbey Road" (for example) most be trash too. I personally think it is great, but I do not think the message or idea is deeper or more interesting than the wall. So yeah I am just confused on why people don't like pink floyd.