What Sucks about This Artist?: Pink Floyd

Trollheart · 01-13-2021, 08:34 AM

How can you be so arrogant as to say Floyd should have split when Waters left? He may have thought he was, but he wasn't Floyd, and while the general consensus of opinion seems to be that the post-Waters albums were terrible, I personally love them. Why should someone end their career in a band just because one member - founder member admittedly, but still only one man - leaves? Do you think Sabbath should have disbanded with the departure of Ozzy? Yes after Wakeman left? Genesis after Gabriel??

The Batlord · 01-13-2021, 09:04 AM

Pink Floyd should have broken up on reentry.

Eleanor Rigby 14 · 01-13-2021, 09:30 AM

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You should just focus on what you do like and consider what you don’t like “on hold” and reserve judgment

Why? I didn't say it was bad. I said it was boring for me. It's my opinion. If one day I get to like The Piper At The Gates Of Dawn, I'll say it, but, at the moment, I don't. I didn't like Led Zeppelin much, now I love them. I love The Beatles, but I don't get Sgt. Pepper's Lobely Hearts Club Band. I accept it, and that's it.
I don't think I'm being disrespectful with anyone, I was just saying my opinion, and I can't think of any reasons that could make me have less rights to do so than the rest of the people, specially when many of them are hating on Pink Floyd here.

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

How can you be so arrogant as to say Floyd should have split when Waters left? He may have thought he was, but he wasn't Floyd, and while the general consensus of opinion seems to be that the post-Waters albums were terrible, I personally love them. Why should someone end their career in a band just because one member - founder member admittedly, but still only one man - leaves? Do you think Sabbath should have disbanded with the departure of Ozzy? Yes after Wakeman left? Genesis after Gabriel??

No and I don't think I've been arrogant. In fact, I hate Waters' personality, I think it was very wrong to demand his bandmates for continuing to use the name of Pink Floyd. Gilmour decided to continue to piss off Waters, it's obvius. If Gilmour had been the one who left instead of Waters, they should've also disbanded.
They did some acceptable things without Roger Waters, but I, personally don't like that albums. I'd even say they were more interested in fighting against Waters or answering to his insluts than really focusing into music. And I think The Endless River was a kind of joke.
I don't know if Black Sabbath should've disbanded when Ozzy left, because I don't listen to them very much, and if I do, I only listen to the "Ozzy era".
As for Yes, I think they were better with Rick Wakeman.
And Genesis? They continued cause they had a man with ideas, who was Phil Collins. The band changed their style, but were still great.
I don't think Gilmour decided to continue because he had interesting projects in mind, I'd even say he used the name of the band to promote himself. Same for Wright and Mason. It's just my opinion and I'm not pretending to be arrogant, if you like A Momentary Lapse Of Reason or The Division Bell, good, but I don't, and I've listened to them many times. Have a good day.

**Marie Monday** · 01-13-2021, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

How can you be so arrogant as to say Floyd should have split when Waters left?

You're right, that's ridiculous, they should have split up back when Syd left

OccultHawk · 01-13-2021, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Eleanor Rigby 14

No and I don't think I've been arrogant. In fact, I hate Waters' personality, I think it was very wrong to demand his bandmates for continuing to use the name of Pink Floyd. Gilmour decided to continue to piss off Waters, it's obvius. If Gilmour had been the one who left instead of Waters, they should've also disbanded.
They did some acceptable things without Roger Waters, but I, personally don't like that albums. I'd even say they were more interested in fighting against Waters or answering to his insluts than really focusing into music. And I think The Endless River was a kind of joke.
I don't know if Black Sabbath should've disbanded when Ozzy left, because I don't listen to them very much, and if I do, I only listen to the "Ozzy era".
As for Yes, I think they were better with Rick Wakeman.
And Genesis? They continued cause they had a man with ideas, who was Phil Collins. The band changed their style, but were still great.
I don't think Gilmour decided to continue because he had interesting projects in mind, I'd even say he used the name of the band to promote himself. Same for Wright and Mason. It's just my opinion and I'm not pretending to be arrogant, if you like A Momentary Lapse Of Reason or The Division Bell, good, but I don't, and I've listened to them many times. Have a good day.

Boom goes the dynamite!

Eleanor Rigby 14 · 01-13-2021, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Boom goes the dynamite!

Was that a positive or a negative answer to my coment? I don't understand what "boom goes the dynamite!" mean.

OccultHawk · 01-13-2021, 11:47 AM

Positive

You tore him up!

He’s used to it though

What do you think of Abacab?

Eleanor Rigby 14 · 01-13-2021, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Positive

You tore him up!

He’s used to it though

What do you think of Abacab?

I have that vinyl at home and I remember listening to it once, but I couldn't really tell you my opinion about it.
(And I'm not an album expert!)

But I think We Can't Dance is a very good one by Genesis when they were led by Collins.

Invisible Touch (the album) isn't bad either.

ribbons · 01-13-2021, 12:38 PM

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How can you be so arrogant as to say Floyd should have split when Waters left?

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You're right, that's ridiculous, they should have split up back when Syd left

I agree - Syd was a real artist and better than all the other Floyd guys put together

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Eleanor Rigby 14 · 01-13-2021, 12:41 PM

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I agree - Syd was a real artist and better than all the other Floyd guys put together

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Come on, what I wanted to say is that they continued to piss Waters off, not because they were excited about the idea of continuing a succesful career. (And I don't like Syd Barrett very much)

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