The Album Club: "Jordan: the Comeback" by Prefab Sprout

Neapolitan · 04-07-2018, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

I never liked it. The sets are ugly.

I read a lot of sci-fi but I don’t watch it very often.

I thought that what brought it charm. I thought was midway between theater and movie. So of the planet scenes were cheesy enough it looked like props on a stage, but then it had some special effects that weren't present in most TV series (for its time). Most movies and series toady are mainly driven by a continuous stream of special effects (mainly CGI) but back then a show like Star Trek the story was driven by dialogue and acting.

OccultHawk · 04-07-2018, 01:01 AM

I hate CGI.

I don’t claim to know much or have good taste when it comes to TV and film.

Trollheart · 04-07-2018, 06:25 AM

**** the sets: what drove Star Trek was its humour and the interaction between the characters. Up to then, all of sci-fi had been desperately serious; nobody would even dare make a joke ("In space, nobody can hear you laugh") but Roddenberry (and especially Shatner and Kelley) turned that on its head. Watch the original pilot, the one without Shatner. It's good but my god is the acting forced, and there's not a trace of humour anywhere, not even a sign of humanity. Then watch the first episode with Shatner in it. The difference is amazing.

The stories on Star Trek were generally ok, but the way the main cast bonded together almost as a family is, I think, what brought people back to watch week after week, year after year. You actually cared about the characters, and for a long time in TV this had not been the case. Star Trek set the bar for every drama and sci-fi (and even comedy) show that followed. It was a trailblazer, the kind of event that comes along once in a lifetime.

**Frownland** · 04-09-2018, 11:08 AM

I listened to the first track and a bit of the second. I don't have time for these white mother****ers. Terrible.

Trollheart · 04-09-2018, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I listened to the first track and a bit of the second. I don't have time for these white mother****ers. Terrible.

Nice, considering I always made it a point to finish everyone's album no matter how much I hated it. Silly me, huh?

**Frownland** · 04-09-2018, 11:17 AM

Have a gold star. I'm sure I'd give you **** for bailing too. This record is ****ing garbage and I'll not have it in my house. I can't believe that people take this music seriously.

~~MicShazam~~ · 04-09-2018, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I only tune into this thread compilation now to see people get salty when their favorite albums get **** on

Why don't you join full time? It would be amusing to see you **** on absolutely everything.

Neapolitan · 04-09-2018, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

**** the sets:

Now you are talking like "a person who is hostile or indifferent to culture and the arts." If there was only a word for that ... a word that didn't throw an ancient people under the bus ... if only there were buses back in the ancient times where that analogy could make sense ...

Trollheart · 04-10-2018, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I listened to the first track and a bit of the second. I don't have time for these white mother****ers. Terrible.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland

Have a gold star. I'm sure I'd give you **** for bailing too. This record is ****ing garbage and I'll not have it in my house. I can't believe that people take this music seriously.

Jordan:the Comeback is not an album you can dismiss with one listen. You need to really get into it. Listen to it a minimum of twice a day every day for the next maybe six months. You have to force yourself, and each time you'll hate it less and eventually grow to like and then love it, and finally you'll wonder how you ever lived without JTC. And if you don't end up getting it, then that's on you, cos JTC is one of the best albums ever written, and you're stupid for not being able to appreciate its majesty and wonder.

**Frownland** · 04-10-2018, 08:53 AM

Explain what's so great about it that you think I missed.

View Poll Results: How Much Did You Enjoy The Album?
Loved it	1	14.29%
Liked it	2	28.57%
Meh	1	14.29%
Disliked it	1	14.29%
Hated it	2	28.57%
Voters: 7. You may not vote on this poll

04-07-2018, 01:01 AM	#32 (permalink)
OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,006	I hate CGI. I don’t claim to know much or have good taste when it comes to TV and film. __________________ 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND: https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html

04-07-2018, 06:25 AM	#33 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,992	**** the sets: what drove Star Trek was its humour and the interaction between the characters. Up to then, all of sci-fi had been desperately serious; nobody would even dare make a joke ("In space, nobody can hear you laugh") but Roddenberry (and especially Shatner and Kelley) turned that on its head. Watch the original pilot, the one without Shatner. It's good but my god is the acting forced, and there's not a trace of humour anywhere, not even a sign of humanity. Then watch the first episode with Shatner in it. The difference is amazing. The stories on Star Trek were generally ok, but the way the main cast bonded together almost as a family is, I think, what brought people back to watch week after week, year after year. You actually cared about the characters, and for a long time in TV this had not been the case. Star Trek set the bar for every drama and sci-fi (and even comedy) show that followed. It was a trailblazer, the kind of event that comes along once in a lifetime. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

04-09-2018, 11:08 AM	#34 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	I listened to the first track and a bit of the second. I don't have time for these white mother***ers. Terrible. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth.* d e a f b o x

04-09-2018, 11:17 AM	#36 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Have a gold star. I'm sure I'd give you ** for bailing too. This record is *ing garbage and I'll not have it in my house. I can't believe that people take this music seriously. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth.* d e a f b o x

04-10-2018, 08:53 AM	#40 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Explain what's so great about it that you think I missed. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x