Originally Posted by The Batlord

Needy as ****.

Originally Posted by The Batlord

I guess I'd call it metalcore with a lot of post-hardcore, noise rock, and math rock influences. They and the band that eventually became Kiss It Goodbye, Deadguy, were very influential on mathcore though neither ever got into wank territory. You should check out Deadguy as well. Same vocalist, with a somewhat more traditional metalcore sound, but unique jagged riffing that'll probably be more obviously mathcore.

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.

Originally Posted by The Batlord

Kiss It Goodbye only has one album and Deadguy only has two, with just the one being their real legacy. There's some other assorted material out there, but both bands were kinda short-lived.

And Rorschach are another band in the Deadguy/Kiss It Goodbye lifespan so I guess I'll throw them in too, but they're more primitive with not so great production so your mileage may very.

Originally Posted by MicShazam

I wanted to say a few things about the above album, but I forgot to write it along with the rest.

There's a distinctly nu-metal like aspect to the vocal delivery, but I don't see this as a bad thing. Nu metal as a style of music, infamous and hated as it is, has seeped into all sorts of places over the years and I hear nu metal influences in all sorts of modern metal bands - both vocally and musically. This album might not be nu metal influenced (it's from 1997), but nu metal could have taken inspiration from whatever musical movement this album was part of. That's the thing with musical inspiration. It's not a simple picture of connections - like a perfectly formed spiderweb - but more of a huge, messy bundle of tangled strings.

The music on this album is really lively sounding. I often describe death metal albums as boring. This is not because I can't enjoy heavy and extreme music, but because a lot of it just sounds stiff and bloodless to me. This album sounds downright explosive. There's a really great, detailed feel to the production too (yeah, yeah I know, no one agrees and/or understands my perspective on production either) that lends a lot of vibrancy to the music - but the drums in particular. I LOVE the drums on this album. Makes me want to jump around and punch things. Great guitar tone, love the over the top, very passionate vocals.

Actually... if more death metal had an unhinged, passionate feeling to it, I'd like more of it. Most of it sounds too controlled and that makes me appreciate death metal with more going on musically over simple bread and butter death metal.

Whatever you'd call this Kiss It Goodbye album, genre wise (probably metalcore), it's waaaay closer to what I like my heavy, abrasive music to sound like than what metal stalwarts like death metal and black metal can deliver.