Neapolitan

fyi: His wiki page has "Bubba Ray Dudley" ... or should we say Bubbatlord Ray Dudley.

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I'm just joking around. Bubba is correct. When he first came in ECW he had a stutter, so he was Buh Buh.

Neapolitan

You might be joking, but I am serious. I really do think Batlord is Bubba Ray Dudley.

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Nick1976

"Kayleigh" is an awesome song. I'm not a Marillion fan, but Kayleigh is quite a nice song and the lyrics are excellent. I really enjoy listening to it. The lyrics are charming and clever, music is cunning... This track really stands out of the entire album.
Much as I don't like neo prog, I love Misplaced Childhood in its entirety.

The Sane Psycho

Perhaps mathcore would be more your style?

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Nick1976

Glam Metal is a tolerable term. Hair Metal is completely crucifying. Perhaps, some day, a writer will refer to Punk as Snot Rock and have that linger for decades. Nobody called this music "hair metal" in the early 80s...or the mid 80s...or the late 80s... or the early 90s in fact I never heard it until the mid 90s and I definitely don't recognize it as an actual musical term. It's a b.s. phrase cooked up as a derogatory comment. The holy trinity of glam metal influences are as follows:
1) Van Halen--Biggest contributions: guitar technique, frontman persona, background vocal style.
2) KISS--Biggest contributions--stage design and pyrotechnics, lyrics about decadent rock lifestyle, template for making heavy songs poppy.
3) Cheap Trick--Biggest contributions: outlandish guitar designs, strong pop melodies, adding mugging goofiness to heavy rock, prototypical "pretty" blonde male singer.

Other major influences in creating the style would include Aerosmith, AC/DC, New York Dolls, Sweet, and of course Led Zep and Deep Purple. I would go further and say that Van Halen may be to metal what the Velvet Underground was to alternative rock. They literally launched several sub-genres of metal on their own. There were very few viable metal acts prior to Van Halen's first album. Within 3-4 years, metal was all over the place, with most of the bands bearing much more of a resemblance to Van Halen than Black Sabbath, although many of these acts that followed also owed a heavy debt to Judas Priest. Van Halen inspired the US metal stuff. They also inspired a legion of guitarists. Their influence remained on all the hard rock/glam rock/glam metal/stuff to get your girlfriend wet stuff the major labels and MTV loved. Also Michael Schenker was a huge influence on glam metal. You don't get that 8th note riff style being so prominent in the music without him. In that sense, I think a lot of 80s heavy metal guitarists grew up on UFO.

But also big influence on metal was still British. Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Venom, Motorhead and rest of NWOBHM which inspired the thrash movement.

OccultHawk

I feel like I used the terms hair metal and hair band back in the 80s

It seems like it was a natural extension of the term “big hair”

Look What the Cat Dragged In especially

However I can’t find the origin of the term and it might be a false memory

I’d be interested to know when these terms were first used in print

I’m about googled out though

Are the Creem archives online?

Creem was my favorite music magazine from like 78-84 maybe

I’m not sure if I was reading a lot of back editions or what

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@Nick: see, you're starting to make a little sense now. Had you titled the thread "What Happened to Hair Metal?" or something, and gone with that idea, I think people here may have been more responsive to you. But you leapt in, kicking and screaming and frothing at the mouth about grunge, and blaming it (and, later, current metal bands) for the decline of your favourite genre. Could have been a decent conversation. Might still be, but you've managed to alienate a lot of people here, and trust lost is hard to win back. Still, if you stay on this tack you may have more success. Just tone down the hatred for grunge and the desire to lay the blame for what you see as the decline of "proper music" at its door.

Kudos on the vote for Misplaced Childhood, by the way.

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Nick1976

Everybody had big hair in the 80's apart from Bronski Beat.

Neapolitan

What about skin heads? lol

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