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Old 04-23-2018, 11:02 AM   #621 (permalink)
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damn how have i been sleeping on this thread for so long

can someone get me up to date with a tl;dr of the walls of text
tl;dr : Hair Metal good, Grunge bad. Grunge was also responsible for 9/11.
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You forgot the ad hominem' and other varied insults.
I did.
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i mean most grunge that i’ve heard has totally been balls to be fair
I don't like it either, but the opinions espoused by this guy - that it killed hair metal, that grunge musicians can neither write nor play music - is beyond ridiculous.
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I guess i am an adult with no sense. Everything is trolling to someone now days.I find that if someone does not agree with me, then I am allegedly a troll. They want to control a conversation.Accusing someone in an open forum is quite toxic.The problem is, people here on this forum think somebody disagreeing with them is automatic trolling.
This is a perfect example of you not listening, or seeing what you want to see. LOOK AT MY POST AGAIN AND READ IT THIS TIME! Nobody is slagging you for having a different opinion. EVERYONE is slagging you because you are shouting in a vacuum, sticking your head in a hole, or your fingers in your ears, refusing to engage, talk, debate or discuss and while you're doing wonders for recycling with your comments, we're all tired of them. But you're obviously not listening so why am I bothering?

In the words of the late George Michael: one more try. Look at some of the other threads, where people have wildly opposing views. Look at discussions between Frownland and me, or Chula and Frownland, or Elphenor and Occulthawk. Look at the difference: these people discuss things, they don't endless recycle and repeat the same garbage posts and think that that somehow makes or helps their case. I refuse to believe you are this stupid. Can you not understand what you're being told here? Am I wasting my time?
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I think everybody just wants you to engage with the response you're getting from your posts. This is a discussion forum not a one way message board.
****ing exactly. In a goddamn nutshell. (Case, more like...)
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Old 04-24-2018, 12:53 AM   #622 (permalink)
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Much to the surprise and regret of the OP, mainstream audiences didn't keep worshipping at the altar of glam metal forever, therefore Kurt Cobain is Satan.
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Old 04-24-2018, 06:18 AM   #623 (permalink)
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The final analysis on Nick1976 I leave to Don McLean:

"They would not listen,
They're not listening still:
Perhaps they never will."


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Old 04-24-2018, 02:26 PM   #624 (permalink)
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I think when grunge came out, it became fashionable to be average musicians, sing songs about depression and cringe at anyone who had big hair and was actually good at playing an instrument. In that wake of Grunge there were a lot of bands that didn't deserve to be thrown by the wayside. Kurt Cobain was ****. Kurt Cobain's song writing was trash. Really listen to "smells like teen spirit." It sounded like that he just mushed a bunch of words that rhymed together and forced it into a song. He couldn't play the guitar worth a piss and his vocals were gar-bitch. Dude sounded like he gargled on some **** when he sang If he were alive today he would have been a has-been. He died at his height... that is the only reason why people consider him a "legend" like I said if he were alive today he would be playing concerts at Wal-Mart.
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Old 04-24-2018, 06:43 PM   #625 (permalink)
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I think when grunge came out, it became fashionable to be average musicians, sing songs about depression and cringe at anyone who had big hair and was actually good at playing an instrument.
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In that wake of Grunge there were a lot of bands that didn't deserve to be thrown by the wayside. Kurt Cobain was ****. Kurt Cobain's song writing was trash. Really listen to "smells like teen spirit." It sounded like that he just mushed a bunch of words that rhymed together and forced it into a song.
That's what his lyrics were. He hated writing lyrics, so he tried to just write stuff that rhymed that conveyed an emotion. He actually had to start writing lyrics with meaning for the third album. That album also contains his best lyrical material.

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Lol. Cobain wasn't a guitar god but he was way better than you're giving him credit for.
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That's what his lyrics were. He hated writing lyrics, so he tried to just write stuff that rhymed that conveyed an emotion. He actually had to start writing lyrics with meaning for the third album. That album also contains his best lyrical material.



Lol. Cobain wasn't a guitar god but he was way better than you're giving him credit for.
One thing you have to admit; as goofy as the 80's hair band guitarists looked with the big hair, make-up and spandex they spent years mastering their craft with blistering guitar riffs and killer solos whereas Cobain shot up the charts playing rinky-dink power chords and amateurish piss ant guitar solos. Go figure! A few months back I was in a local music store and saw this young 15-ish looking boy playing the guitar intro to Alice Cooper's "Poison" on a Fender Strat. I walked up to him and shook his hand and thanked him for NOT playing that "Come as you are" or "Smells like Teen Spirit" bull**** like most people I hear his age play. Judging from the smile he gave me he knew exactly what I was getting at! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq4j1LtCdww
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That's what his lyrics were. He hated writing lyrics, so he tried to just write stuff that rhymed that conveyed an emotion. He actually had to start writing lyrics with meaning for the third album. That album also contains his best lyrical material.



Lol. Cobain wasn't a guitar god but he was way better than you're giving him credit for.
All Cobain sang about was depression, gloom, doom, misery, angst, despair, loss and a terrible life growing up. Sure, he wasn't the first nor the last to sing songs like that but that was ALL he sang about! Take John Lennon for example; his dad abandoned him and his mom when he was a kid and John was practically destroyed when his mother was killed by an off duty police officer who was driving drunk but looking at his music it wasn't all about doom and gloom......and he didn't commit suicide either.
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One thing you have to admit; as goofy as the 80's hair band guitarists looked with the big hair, make-up and spandex they spent years mastering their craft with blistering guitar riffs and killer solos whereas Cobain shot up the charts playing rinky-dink power chords and amateurish piss ant guitar solos. Go figure! A few months back I was in a local music store and saw this young 15-ish looking boy playing the guitar intro to Alice Cooper's "Poison" on a Fender Strat. I walked up to him and shook his hand and thanked him for NOT playing that "Come as you are" or "Smells like Teen Spirit" bull**** like most people I hear his age play. Judging from the smile he gave me he knew exactly what I was getting at! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq4j1LtCdww
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Yea cause sweet ego stroking solos are everything..


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A few months back I was in a local music store and saw this young 15-ish looking boy playing the guitar intro to Alice Cooper's "Poison" on a Fender Strat. I walked up to him and shook his hand and thanked him for NOT playing that "Come as you are" or "Smells like Teen Spirit" bull**** like most people I hear his age play. Judging from the smile he gave me he knew exactly what I was getting at! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq4j1LtCdww
Did you time jump to the 90's and are now stuck there? Or do you live in an alternate reality where time doesn't move forward?
Cause it's 2018 man, Kurt is dead. You can count that as a win.
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One thing you have to admit; as goofy as the 80's hair band guitarists looked with the big hair, make-up and spandex they spent years mastering their craft with blistering guitar riffs and killer solos whereas Cobain shot up the charts playing rinky-dink power chords and amateurish piss ant guitar solos. Go figure! A few months back I was in a local music store and saw this young 15-ish looking boy playing the guitar intro to Alice Cooper's "Poison" on a Fender Strat. I walked up to him and shook his hand and thanked him for NOT playing that "Come as you are" or "Smells like Teen Spirit" bull**** like most people I hear his age play. Judging from the smile he gave me he knew exactly what I was getting at! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq4j1LtCdww
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