I hate grunge.

Trollheart · 04-12-2018, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by The Sane Psycho

To be fair, I feel like grunge was more of a scene or movement than it was an actual genre. The bands that were tagged as grunge were just too varied and dissimilar to be lumped in with a single genre. Bands like Nirvana, Mudhoney, and 7 Year Bitch were bands in the punk, garage rock, and noise rock tradition. Alice In Chains, Soundgarden, and Tad were straight up metal bands. Pearl Jam was a bluesy classic rock influenced band. The U-Men, Skin Yard, and Beasts Of Bourbon were really post-punky. Seaweed had a really post-hardcore/emo feel to it. Mother Love Bone and Malfunkshun were your hair bands. Then you had psychedelic rock bands like Screaming Trees, Love Battery, and Truly. The bands in the grunge movement just varied way too much to be considered one singular genre, in my opinion.

I get what you're saying, and tbh I know feck-all about grunge. It just amuses me that when someone points out a band that is, shall we say, considered to be part of the grunge scene, he immediately reacts by saying oh no I consider them to be hair metal. It's such a childish response, like saying I hate all prog bands - well what about Henry Cow? Oh they're not prog.

No, they may not necessarily be as such (being a RIO band) but they're still considered as part of the prog scene, and you can't say you hate prog but separate one or more bands out of it, calling them something else because it either doesn't fit with your narrative or, indeed, calls bull**** on it and shows it up to be the full-of-holes argument it is.

**Frownland** · 04-12-2018, 06:34 PM

Henry Cow is progressive rock but it's not prog rock because it's too progressive.

Trollheart · 04-12-2018, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Henry Cow is progressive rock but it's not prog rock because it's too progressive.

Right you are, Nick.

Neapolitan · 04-12-2018, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

I get what you're saying, and tbh I know feck-all about grunge. It just amuses me that when someone points out a band that is, shall we say, considered to be part of the grunge scene, he immediately reacts by saying oh no I consider them to be hair metal. It's such a childish response, like saying I hate all prog bands - well what about Henry Cow? Oh they're not prog.

No, they may not necessarily be as such (being a RIO band) but they're still considered as part of the prog scene, and you can't say you hate prog but separate one or more bands out of it, calling them something else because it either doesn't fit with your narrative or, indeed, calls bull**** on it and shows it up to be the full-of-holes argument it is.

Kinda like someone who doesn't like Abacab the best Prog album of the 80s. Or doesn't like ELP the band that launched Prog. Or someone who gives the British band Asia only three cookies, when they deserve like ten cookies, maybe twelve cookies.

Yeah, when I saw Henry Cow I was like 'oh, they gotta be the Prefab Sprout of Prog.' I gave a listen for a few seconds and I was like 'called it.' They are no where near the real second wave Prog band Asia from Rapid City. Now that band encapsulates Prog and you don't even give them a single cookie.

~~MicShazam~~ · 04-13-2018, 12:59 AM

Let me be your common enemy. I think all prog rock is terrible.

grindy · 04-13-2018, 01:46 AM

I just magically appear whenever someone says 'Henry Cow'.

Black Francis · 04-13-2018, 02:07 AM

Is Slapp happy prog rock? I haven't listened to Henry Cow but i have listened to Art bears and slapp happy but I've never really labeled their sound.

The Batlord · 04-13-2018, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam

Let me be your common enemy. I think all prog rock is terrible.

Even this?

~~MicShazam~~ · 04-13-2018, 04:21 AM

Yeah, also that. I mean, parts of it could be salvaged but... I mostly appreciate prog rock for how it led to prog metal. Not that I like much of that either, but a progressive influence in various metal bands has been healthy for the genre.

The Batlord · 04-13-2018, 04:25 AM

Never thought I'd be looking down my nose on someone on that side of the fence. Weird.

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Black Francis Out of Place Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: in an abstract house Posts: 4,111	Is Slapp happy prog rock? I haven't listened to Henry Cow but i have listened to Art bears and slapp happy but I've never really labeled their sound. __________________ "Hey Kids you got to meet the MIGHTY PIXIES!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbRbCtIgW3A

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~~MicShazam~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Aalborg Posts: 7,634	Let me be your common enemy. I think all prog rock is terrible.

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~~MicShazam~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Aalborg Posts: 7,634	Yeah, also that. I mean, parts of it could be salvaged but... I mostly appreciate prog rock for how it led to prog metal. Not that I like much of that either, but a progressive influence in various metal bands has been healthy for the genre.