MB Classics: Led Zeppelin IV

Akai · 02-19-2018, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Who the **** cares when LZ were consistently releasing mediocre records that pretended to be by a band who could write folk and blues. Their blues and folk songs were dull **** by clueless white boys with delusions of grandeur. They had the ability to write amazing **** but insisted on stepping outside their lane.

I still can't see the correlation of that to the validity of a records release date.

You're allowed not to like em, subjective.

Oriphiel · 02-19-2018, 06:08 PM

68-70

The Batlord · 02-19-2018, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Akai

I still can't see the correlation of that to the validity of a records release date.

You're allowed not to like em, subjective.

I mean that they can release all the lame **** they want as early as they want and still suck. The Yardbirds were superior. They didn't reach the same heights, but damn did they **** on early Zep.

Akai · 02-19-2018, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

The Yardbirds were superior. They didn't reach the same heights, but dam did they **** on early Zep.

I agree tbh.

'For your love' and 'heart full of soul' are to this day two of my favorite tracks of all time.

Oriphiel · 02-19-2018, 06:19 PM

Free + Yardbirds = Freebird

The Batlord · 02-19-2018, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Akai

I agree tbh.

'For your love' and 'heart full of soul' are to this day two of my favorite tracks of all time.

Right on. Maybe the first half of Physical Graffiti could win, maybe, but in general Led Zeppelin fall short of Having a Rave Up. They just have too many moments of tediousness, whereas Yardbirds could be just decent and still rock your ****. They were half as accomplished but it didn't matter. Of coursed I'm biased by early rock n roll love. I'd take the Rolling Stones' first album over anything else they ever did easy.

OccultHawk · 02-19-2018, 06:54 PM

This is pretty interesting

Rolling Stone’s Original take on Zep 1

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The popular formula in England in this, the aftermath era of such successful British bluesmen as Cream and John Mayall, seems to be: add, to an excellent guitarist who, since leaving the Yardbirds and/or Mayall, has become a minor musical deity, a competent rhythm section and pretty soul-belter who can do a good spade imitation. The latest of the British blues groups so conceived offers little that its twin, the Jeff Beck Group, didn't say as well or better three months ago, and the excesses of the Beck group's Truth album (most notably its self-indulgence and restrictedness), are fully in evidence on Led Zeppelin's debut album.

Jimmy Page, around whom the Zeppelin revolves, is, admittedly, an extraordinarily proficient blues guitarist and explorer of his instrument's electronic capabilities. Unfortunately, he is also a very limited producer and a writer of weak, unimaginative songs, and the Zeppelin album suffers from his having both produced it and written most of it (alone or in combination with his accomplices in the group).

The album opens with lots of guitarrhythm section exchanges (in the fashion of Beck's "Shapes of Things" on "Good Times Bad Times," which might have been ideal for a Yardbirds' B-side. Here, as almost everywhere else on the album, it is Page's guitar that provides most of the excitement. "Babe I'm Gonna Leave You" alternates between prissy Robert Plant's howled vocals fronting an acoustic guitar and driving choruses of the band running down a four-chord progression while John Bonham smashes his cymbals on every beat. The song is very dull in places (especially on the vocal passages), very redundant, and certainly not worth the six-and-a-half minutes the Zeppelin gives it.

Two much-overdone Willie Dixon blues standards fail to be revivified by being turned into showcases for Page and Plant. "You Shook Me" is the more interesting of the two — at the end of each line Plant's echo-chambered voice drops into a small explosion of fuzz-tone guitar, with which it matches shrieks at the end.

Obviously, Zep 1 is unassailable so he’s wrong but if you wanted to rip it apart that’s how you would do it lol

The Batlord · 02-19-2018, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

This is pretty interesting

Rolling Stone’s Original take on Zep 1

Obviously, Zep 1 is unassailable so he’s wrong but if you wanted to rip it apart that’s how you would do it lol

Nah he nailed it. Or at least the **** I can understand cause I'm not that guy from Rolling Stone in 1969.

OccultHawk · 02-19-2018, 06:59 PM

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I'd take the Rolling Stones' first album over anything else they ever did easy.

I find that almost impossible to believe. I know just asking this is insulting but how familiar are you with the Stones’ discography?

Paul Smeenus · 02-19-2018, 07:03 PM

This album is one overblown song from being LZ's best, 9/10

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