MB Classics: Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp A Butterfly

Blank. · 12-17-2017, 10:49 AM

Kendrick Lamar's To Pimp A Butterfly

Your vote only counts if you say something about the album. It doesn't need to be a paragraph, just a couple sentences about the album.

Also, I'll ask mods to delete Votes this time. Just a couple of sentences. That's all.

OccultHawk · 12-17-2017, 10:50 AM

No poll

~~Cuthbert~~ · 12-17-2017, 10:56 AM

I gave it a 6 out of 10 because it's above average and has some decent tracks.

Overrated because it's Kendrick and he talks about 'race issues'.

OccultHawk · 12-17-2017, 11:04 AM

8

I’m not going to pretend like it’s not a quality hip hop record. I just think there’s something conservative and watered down about this album that keeps it from living up to it’s potential. Like a college chick who never gets drunk and slutty.

rubber soul · 12-17-2017, 11:25 AM

I'm not a hip hop fan generally but I was pleasantly surprised and gave it a 7. Watch out now because it must be snowing in Hell. I actually like something Frownie repped

~~Cuthbert~~ · 12-17-2017, 11:30 AM

GKMC is better than it btw.

Now that is a good album.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 12-17-2017, 02:04 PM

a juicy 9’er

i think hip hop albums will have the toughest time joining the club because we have a lot of members here who don’t like the genre and will rate it poorly bc of it.

anyway, on the topic of the album it is immense. i agree that Kendrick has made tracks better than anything on this album, but as cohesive conceptual piece it is unlike nearly anything made in the last 10 years around hip-hop.

Paedantic Basterd · 12-17-2017, 05:42 PM

Pre-Listen:

I am suspicious of this album because of the vast amount of hype it's been given. I find that the more people talk something up, the more disappointed I tend to be when I actually experience it for myself. I mean, I like Kendrick Lamar, I liked DAMN, but I'm having a hard time understanding why he's so widely acclaimed. I mean it's not like he isn't good, it's just that his reputation is more than I think anyone can live up to. Anyways, this one is supposed to be his seminal work so I'm at least hopeful I will like it.

First Pass:

Wesley's Theory is a really great start. It's kind of awkward, kind of woozy, and there's a lot to admire musically. Kind of sounds more like an Ariel Pink song than Kendrick Lamar, but I like that. Music is always front and center for me; lyrics come much later. Never been a big fan of interludes. More often than not they're just wasted space, but For Free? has its merits nonetheless. King Kunta is rock solid too. I appreciate the variety in timbres he uses from song to song and the way the track builds is pretty great. These Walls starts out with a woman giving birth, but nevertheless becomes a very nice R&B neo-soul diddy. Hood Politics is the album's low point. Honestly, it's a little annoying, but it's nothing unforgivable, and it picks right back up with How Much a Dollar Cost, which is so smooth. Musically, it sounds like it came off of Amnesiac. The Blacker the Berry and I are a nice change in attitude towards the end.

Conclusion:

It took me about 5 hours to actually listen to the whole thing but that's because there's a 90 Day Fiance marathon on and it's a holiday tradition for my mother and I to binge watch trash TV.

Album on the whole is really varied, but consistent. I think I prefer this to DAMN. and it's definitely worth hanging on to. Even so, I'm not sure I understand why everyone and their dog has a boner for Kendrick Lamar--if someone wants to explain to me what he does differently that is so important to music and to hip hop, I am interested to hear it. Is he very good? Yes. Did my face melt and my understanding of the universe crack in half? No it did not.

In sum: 7/10 and I'm going to include it in my ongoing guide to hip hop for people who think they hate hip hop.

Machine · 12-17-2017, 07:34 PM

Used to love the **** out of this album, but it has not aged well at all. Every time I go back to it can barely listen to 3 songs before getting bored out of my mind and having to turn on something better. You could say the fact I don't really listen to hip-hop anymore might have something to do with this, but seeing as Flower Boy and Saturation II are two of my favorite albums of 2017 I don't think that this is the case. Going back the message seems entirely ham fisted and forced and the rapping is good at best. The beats are phenomenal in texture, but unfortunately never quite exit the "smooth" minutia of the album leaving it feeling underwhelming and bland.

5/10

**Frownland** · 12-17-2017, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Machine

Flower Boy

Quote:

entirely ham fisted

*cough*

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12-17-2017, 10:49 AM	#1 (permalink)
Blank. Jacob Sartorius Join Date: May 2016 Location: Dank memes Posts: 4,033	MB Classics: Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp A Butterfly Kendrick Lamar's To Pimp A Butterfly Your vote only counts if you say something about the album. It doesn't need to be a paragraph, just a couple sentences about the album. Also, I'll ask mods to delete Votes this time. Just a couple of sentences. That's all.

12-17-2017, 10:50 AM	#2 (permalink)
OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,006	No poll __________________ 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND: https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html

12-17-2017, 11:04 AM	#4 (permalink)
OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,006	8 I’m not going to pretend like it’s not a quality hip hop record. I just think there’s something conservative and watered down about this album that keeps it from living up to it’s potential. Like a college chick who never gets drunk and slutty. __________________ 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND: https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html

12-17-2017, 05:42 PM	#8 (permalink)
Paedantic Basterd Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,184	Pre-Listen: I am suspicious of this album because of the vast amount of hype it's been given. I find that the more people talk something up, the more disappointed I tend to be when I actually experience it for myself. I mean, I like Kendrick Lamar, I liked DAMN, but I'm having a hard time understanding why he's so widely acclaimed. I mean it's not like he isn't good, it's just that his reputation is more than I think anyone can live up to. Anyways, this one is supposed to be his seminal work so I'm at least hopeful I will like it. First Pass: Wesley's Theory is a really great start. It's kind of awkward, kind of woozy, and there's a lot to admire musically. Kind of sounds more like an Ariel Pink song than Kendrick Lamar, but I like that. Music is always front and center for me; lyrics come much later. Never been a big fan of interludes. More often than not they're just wasted space, but For Free? has its merits nonetheless. King Kunta is rock solid too. I appreciate the variety in timbres he uses from song to song and the way the track builds is pretty great. These Walls starts out with a woman giving birth, but nevertheless becomes a very nice R&B neo-soul diddy. Hood Politics is the album's low point. Honestly, it's a little annoying, but it's nothing unforgivable, and it picks right back up with How Much a Dollar Cost, which is so smooth. Musically, it sounds like it came off of Amnesiac. The Blacker the Berry and I are a nice change in attitude towards the end. Conclusion: It took me about 5 hours to actually listen to the whole thing but that's because there's a 90 Day Fiance marathon on and it's a holiday tradition for my mother and I to binge watch trash TV. Album on the whole is really varied, but consistent. I think I prefer this to DAMN. and it's definitely worth hanging on to. Even so, I'm not sure I understand why everyone and their dog has a boner for Kendrick Lamar--if someone wants to explain to me what he does differently that is so important to music and to hip hop, I am interested to hear it. Is he very good? Yes. Did my face melt and my understanding of the universe crack in half? No it did not. In sum: 7/10 and I'm going to include it in my ongoing guide to hip hop for people who think they hate hip hop. Last edited by Paedantic Basterd; 12-17-2017 at 05:50 PM.

12-17-2017, 10:56 AM	#3 (permalink)
~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	I gave it a 6 out of 10 because it's above average and has some decent tracks. Overrated because it's Kendrick and he talks about 'race issues'.

12-17-2017, 11:30 AM	#6 (permalink)
~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	GKMC is better than it btw. Now that is a good album.

12-17-2017, 07:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
Machine moon lake inc. Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Detroit Posts: 2,125	Used to love the **** out of this album, but it has not aged well at all. Every time I go back to it can barely listen to 3 songs before getting bored out of my mind and having to turn on something better. You could say the fact I don't really listen to hip-hop anymore might have something to do with this, but seeing as Flower Boy and Saturation II are two of my favorite albums of 2017 I don't think that this is the case. Going back the message seems entirely ham fisted and forced and the rapping is good at best. The beats are phenomenal in texture, but unfortunately never quite exit the "smooth" minutia of the album leaving it feeling underwhelming and bland. 5/10 __________________ boost my ego listen to me stroke my delay pedal ever wanted to hear death grips songs... but they're acoustic? me neither.