Yeah this was ok. Quite good, I won't deny, though I don't see why their cum is so frequently on your lips. I've heard better hip-hop, and I know ****-all about the genre. Decent, certainly. World-changing? Hardly.

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That ending with the Last Poets line is life itself. I give Shabazz a lot of love for making perfect music. The way their songs evolve and the unique sounds of their synths and such are unmatched in the hip hop world. Oh, and most of their material is as good or better than that track.

I told you I will listen to them, but right now there are people posting videos to further my education in other genres. I know little about hip-hop, it's true, but through my thread I've become a tiny bit more familiar with it, while there are yet genres I know next to nothing about.
Baby steps, man. Baby steps. First you sample all the menu, then decide on what you really like and order up the big meal. I'm still reading the menu at the moment.

God damn it but that was boring. I don't know what else to say about it. No personality, nothing interesting, just total generic rock with a repetitive beat and the same for the lyric. Sorry man but that was terribly dull.

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Yeah that was slightly better, though really not much. Again, pretty generic. All I can say there really is meh.

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Here's some jazz. I'm not sure about what sub genre. It's instrumental, but surely far too structured to be free jazz. I've posted this track elsewhere on MB, but you still probably never heard it. If you did, I'll dig up some other jazz.

Kendrick Scott Oracle - We Are the Drum
(From the album of the same name).

Maddy Prior (MBE) has a wonderful voice. I rank her up there with the best Folk (Psychedelic Folk) singers like Joni Mitchell, Jacqui McShee, Celia Humphris and Sandy Denny. Acid Folk is really a good genre to get into, it's laid back and musicians are top notch in most bands. Maybe you secretly LIKE it but are afraid to admit it?

The Gateway to Captain Beefheart: First get into Deerhoof, they are more modern and current band and they are really good. You will be glad I introduce you to them. Then get into Tin Huey, if you haven't heard of them already. You at that age where you probably seen them live in concert. If you have please tell. After getting into those two wonderful bands you will find the most logical step is to get into Captain Beefheart. You will want to immerse yourself into the man and the music that started it all. You will see how much he has influence those other bands previously mentioned. Trust me once you drop the needle on Trout Mask Replica you have officially arrived in Frownland and you will frown no more. But beware the Magic Band will blow your mind away with how awesome they are. It is criminal how forgotten he and his music has become. I think if people had more Captain Beefheart in their life the world would be such a more groovy place to live in.

Avant-garde, experimental Rock etc etc

Deerhoof - Fresh Born - Juan's Basement


Tin Huey - Puppet Wipes


Captain Beefheart & His Magic Band - German TV 1972

here's a couple great blackgaze tracks that i think you're gonna dig





and we'll leave at that for now because they're a little long

Sez you: I don't like her voice at all. I don't see what having an MBE has to do with her ability as a singer, or my reaction to her singing. And I wear my love for bands like Genesis, Journey and Bon Jovi on my sleeve: I have no need, nor desire, to "secretly like" anything. I just hated this, plain and simple.
Please look again at the thread title. Captain Beefheart is not a genre, and anyway I've heard enough of him to know that though he isn't as terrible as I had originally thought, I certainly don't like most of what I've heard of him. And I've heard TMR, more than once. I still don't like it. I'm not interested in satisfying either your hard-on for Beefheart or Batty's for ICP: that's not what this thread is intended for, so please stick to its premise. Thanks.

Avant-garde

Holy ****, Madelyne Pryor was a reference?

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Coming up later: my reaction to Batty's ICP videos.

=twice?

Sorry, that album has a 4-listen minimum.

And I don't even have any popcorn :(

Was starting to wonder about that.

I reached my max already thanks.
Wonder no more.
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Bad music enthusiast. Bad!

Life's too short to waste it listening to Beefheart.

He said before he listened to 20 k-pop records in a row.

Means to an end, man. Means to an end. I wouldn't listen to k-pop for my own enjoyment, that's for sure. Nah, I don't mean to insult you: some of Beefheart's work is tolerable to me, but most of it I really don't like, so I'd rather listen to stuff I enjoy, on my own time. In my thread, whole different matter.

Most of it? So you've heard more than 3/4 of his discography? Once?

Sorry that doesn't count. It goes like this:
Step one: Listen to Beefheart
Step two: Repeat step one until a casual Beefheart fan
Step three: Repeat step one until you're a die hard Beefheart fan
Step four: Repeat step one until you literally die for Beefhert

No.

Do you realize how common it is for people to not like Beefheart at first? If that wasn't such a common trajectory I wouldn't grill you for rejecting it as "not your thing," but I know the truth. You're a fan. We're all fans. You can only reject that premise after hearing TMR four times or more.

That's like saying anyone who was listening to American AM radio in late 1977 should all be into Debby Boone.

No, it's like saying that an avant-garde record/artist might not be as easy to appreciate as a pop record/artist but when you can come to appreciate it, it has so much to offer that the only logical choice is to dedicate your life to the album/artist.

The results are in...

I could get down with the clown on this track. It was pretty fun, if a little derivative. Good chorus, catchy. They totally ripped off the melody though.
This one was ****. Just terrible.
Your video didn't work. However, knowing you'd just call me a pussy, I found one that did. I wish I hadn't. This was worse than "Mad Professor". Just awful.
This one I enjoyed, though they used this theme of a dead girl already on the album I listened to, so it was a bit yeah, so what? I did like the melody though.
This was probably my favourite. I really liked this one.

And now, a Wall of Text Production from Trollheart Studios. Read or ignore, I don't mind, but it's germane to the issue.

The thing about ICP is this: when you first "forced" me to listen to Riddle Box in the Torture Chamber, I was expecting a horrible experience. Everyone on the forum had been unanimous, almost, in their dismissal of these guys, and some went so far as to say they were the worst band ever. So when I listened, and it wasn't that bad, I was surprised. As, it seems, you have never or seldom got this reaction from anyone here, you seem to have taken that as approval from me for ICP.

It's not.

See, the thing about ICP, from what I can see, is that they're like a big sticky meringue. Lovely and sweet and bad for you, but ultimately hollow and if you eat too many you get sick. ICP seem to be flogging the same basic joke all through everything I've heard from you. It's funny the first few times, but after a while you need more. They're a one-trick pony. A novelty act. And the joke wears really thin really fast.

So while I'm not saying I hate them, and I'm not saying I wouldn't listen to more of them IF I ASK, I don't want to get into them and I'm not a fan. There's so much more that I've already discovered in hip-hop alone, why would I want to keep listening to guys who think they're so funny when really they're not, or so hard when they're just boasting like overgrown children? It's a waste of my time.

So in conclusion, no more ICP unless I ask you for some, which is kind of unlikely at this moment.

This concludes this Wall of Text. Thanks for reading. If you did. If not, **** you homey! :)

No, and I don't care. Give it up man. I have literally thousands of albums and hundreds of artists to check out before I would give any more time to the meaty one. Not interested. You do you, and what will I do? Let me see ... oh yeah. I'll do me.

Fine but that makes you a bad music enthusiast. Say hi to your peers elph and Chula.

Fine. I don't expect anyone but loser juggalos and random weirdos like me to get anything from ICP beyond a surface level, but it's always fun looking for people who don't know they're ICP fans who just don't know it yet. If you're looking for anything non-gimmicky about them lyric-wise then you're in the wrong house, cause they're the gimmickiest **** ever and it's as great a weakness as it is a strength, so if that's a deal breaker then the deal is beyond broken. But hey you listen to power metal so I figured you just might not care about goofy lyrics.

But to be honest ICP's shallow musical merits are easy to grasp on a surface level, but can be surprisingly hard to master due to their cringiness that makes them easy to dismiss, so I'm never ready to totally dismiss a possible fan.

Yeah yeah, whatever. I see right through you, pal. You don't actually want me to get into Beefheart, you want to be the one to get me into him so you can sit back smugly and say "Told you so". I'm on to you. Tell me, if I told you that if you listened, constantly, to Marillion's discography that you would finally "get" them, would you believe me? Thing is, I wouldn't do that, because I've accepted you have no interest in hearing, appreciating or exploring Marillion's music, whereas you don't seem to be able to get it through your head that I'm not interested in your pal. You're hardly an unbiased source, you know. Let me be very clear: the chances of me ever listening, of choice, to a Beefheart album are about as likely as my winning the Miss Teenage America pageant.
If they had something else in their locker, I could overlook the rehashed, reused ideas, but they just seem to be so one-dimensional, so restricted, and I look for more than that in my music. Hey, at least I didn't hate every song...

"post music I should listen to but won't"

You absolutely do not. TMR is traditionally inaccessible until you listen to it a few times (aka 4) at which point many people get comfortable with the album not trying to be The Beatles and really embrace it.

A ****ing Matt Groening quote for your bad music appreciation skills

"I thought it was the worst thing I'd ever heard. I said to myself, they're not even trying! It was just a sloppy cacophony. Then I listened to it a couple more times, because I couldn't believe Frank Zappa could do this to me – and because a double album cost a lot of money. About the third time, I realised they were doing it on purpose; they meant it to sound exactly this way. About the sixth or seventh time, it clicked in, and I thought it was the greatest album I'd ever heard".

He's just trying to trick you, right? Or maybe TMR is an album that isn't as easy to embrace as other art but is actually better for it. This album DEFINES the grower record. Don't just dismiss that.

Just remember that lyrics aren't music. Not expecting you to explore their discography or anything, but if you did I imagine you'd be surprised at their musical development over a full decade. You might not appreciate it, but you'd probably be surprised at least.

The Official Gateway to Hard Rock and Heavy Metal

1. The Official Gateway to Judas Priest
   The Gun - Race With The Devil
   
   
   
2. The Official Gateway to Aerosmith
   Johnny Burnette Trio-Train Kept A Rollin'
   
   
   
3. The Official Gateway to Nazareth
   Everly Brothers - Love Hurts
   

I already posted Train Kept a Rollin (Trolls hated it), but Gun is awesome and the Everlys are pretty cool too.

Yeah, absolutely. Cos those two would definitely have made this thread and listened to every album on Wiki's list for this year, regardless of genre, wouldn't they? Try harder. Actually, on second thoughts, don't bother. Moving on....


Now that's MUCH more like it! This is jazz I can get into. Enjoyed that a lot. Thanks MicShaz!

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Genres, Mondo: ****ing genres not artists. I don't want to get into one specific artist, much less one I already don't like.
Why in the name of the good lord **** should I care what Groening has to say? Sure, he likes it. I do not. I know my own tastes: I seldom, if ever, hear an album I hate and end up liking it. Almost never. It's not going to happen, no matter how many times you beat me over the head with this album, so just drop it. Not. Interested. End of.
Yeah maybe, you never know. I won't give up on them. Just don't be a Frownland about them. That really pisses me off.
If you say "The gateway to [insert band]" once more I'm going to ignore your posts. I am NOT looking to get into any artist (the above I know in any case, they're not new to me and I hated Johnny ****ing Burnette's song) but genres. So if you want to say "the gateway to [insert genre here]" fine, but stop using artists as frigging gateways. It's really annoying, all right? Genres, people. I don't know why this is so hard to grasp: it's in the ****ing title of the thread, after all...

my bad, my bro
What version? The Rock n Roll Trio, The Yardbirds, or Aerosmith?

The Rock n Roll Trio. I think it is one of the great Rock n Roll albums of the fifties.

Actually the original version was recorded by Tiny Bradshaw in 1951. that version really rocks.

"She was a hipster, and a gone dame." Wow, that was back then when a "hipster" was someone who was cool, not the negative connotation it has today as a dork trying to be hip.

My favorites are Gene Vincent and Eddie Cochran.

The Official Gateway to Rockabilly

Led Zeppelin - Something Else


trace back to

Eddie Cochran - C'mon Everybody


EDDIE COCHRAN - SOMETHIN ELSE

You all dismiss music for pointless reasons that demonstrate a lack of will to challenge yourselves. But no, neither of them would make your thread where you ignore multiple releases.

I'm just trying to get you to understand how common it is for people to hate the album on their first listen and grow to love it after multiple listens. It's just the nature of the album in that you need to familiarize yourself with what's even happening on the record, to learn the language, before you're even capable of trying to dissect and understand it enough to know hiw much you enjoy it. It was my experience, it was Groening's experience, it was the experience of many Beefheart fans. It's fine if you think I'm annoying but you're being stupid for not humouring the fact (yes, fact) that something can grow on you because of that. I don't care if you don't like it, but if you're really going to tell me that you're open minded when it comes to music, you should demonstrate that by giving music the chance it deserves.

I wouldn't tell you that a WISSK or Peter Brötzmann album can grow on you, this album is very special in that aspect. There's a reason I keep hammering this point.