The Official Genre Gateway Thread

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by Trollheart

I also like Genesis. Is anyone posting Genesis tracks? Or what about Ruthie Foster, whom I just got into via the albums thread? Get this through your thick head: this is NOT a thread for reccing albums/tracks YOU want me to listen to. It's supposed to get me into GENRES I'm unfamiliar with, not specific bands. ICP is not a genre, unless you call it CrapClownCore. I have no problem listening to the tracks you posted and giving you my reaction, but stop using this thread as an excuse to post IC ****ing P! Last word. You don't like it, **** off. Seriously.

See this is where you fail. You start a thread about getting into genres, which shouldn't be some restrictive concept as it's such a broad idea, and yet you have to whine about how other people approach it because you're just not willing to contemplate that someone else's way might actually work for you.

You wanted to get into hip hop? Well a good way is to explore a single artist you've been introduced to and liked. Unless all you really wanted to do was get kudos for being so open minded.

Originally Posted by Trollheart

Kind of coincidental, don't you think, that it was you who triggered the new rule? Everyone else was fine with the premise and concept of the thread, then along you come with your ICP fanboying, trying to make it all about you as usual, and so I had to instigate a rule that should not even need to have been stated. Weird, huh?

I don't think there's anything coincidental about you imposing arbitrary rules because you always do it.

Originally Posted by Trollheart

Dir En Grey up next, but as per the new rule, one only, so either pick the one you want me to listen to or leave it up to me.

Oh look, apparently I wasn't the only one who needed to be told not to post multiple videos by the same artist. I guess it wasn't so obvious after all.

[Trollheart]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

See this is where you fail. You start a thread about getting into genres, which shouldn't be some restrictive concept as it's such a broad idea, and yet you have to whine about how I approach it because you're just not willing to contemplate that my way might actually work for you.

You wanted to get into hip hop? Well a good way is to explore a single artist you've been introduced to and liked. Unless all you really wanted to do was get kudos for being so open minded.

Fixed that for you. Stop whining.

I don't think there's anything coincidental about you imposing arbitrary rules because you always do it.

Nothing arbitrary about it. The rule would not have been needed had you not gone Chicken Hunting as you always do.

Oh look, apparently I wasn't the only one who needed to be told not to post multiple videos by the same artist. I guess it wasn't so obvious after all.

Yeah, and if MicShaz is told one song per artist only, he'll agree to that, unlike you, who always think your way is the only way. Now **** off or I won't even listen to those ICP tracks at all.

[Trollheart]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

You wanted to get into hip hop? Well a good way is to explore a single artist you've been introduced to and liked.

This is actually one of the most ludicrous things you've ever posted. It's the exact opposite. A good way - the best way - to get into any genre is to explore as many and as varied artists within that genre as you can, otherwise you just "like one or two artists in [insert genre here]" and cannot be said to have truly experienced, explored and appreciated the genre. Like people who "like Heavy Metal" but are only into Metallica.

[MicShazam]

Originally Posted by Trollheart

Dir En Grey up next, but as per the new rule, one only, so either pick the one you want me to listen to or leave it up to me.

Allright, I'll put it as a choice:

If you want something where there's a higher chance you might like it, go with "Rinkaku".
If you want something a bit riskier, but more interesting/challenging to sit through, pick "Diabolos".

[Trollheart]

Originally Posted by MicShazam

Rinkaku

I went with this one in the end. Really very good, and the video is amazing. I'm probably gonna label it as prog metal, unless you have any other insights? Impressed anyway: was that a girl singing, at least at the beginning?

[Trollheart]

Originally Posted by Qwertyy

more hippity hoppity

Loved this. Very cool, very smooth, rap was easy to follow and make out - someone talking about the suicide of a close friend? Excellent stuff.

[MicShazam]

Originally Posted by Trollheart

I went with this one in the end. Really very good, and the video is amazing. I'm probably gonna label it as prog metal, unless you have any other insights? Impressed anyway: was that a girl singing, at least at the beginning?

For this particular song, I'm okay with whatever you want to call it. Prog metal seems fine, since the metal elements aren't ever going into aggressive territory. The band's music is all over the place, but a lot of it could be called prog metal for sure. I do think they're a very unique band, even when they do proggy sounding metal, but you gotta call it something.

All vocals are performed by the singer, Kyo. He's really my all time favorite singer, in no small part due to his impressive versatility. This song only exhibits part of what he can do vocally.

Again: Actually glad that you didn't hate it!

And I agree the video is very well made. Although their videos otherwise tend to be a overtly tasteless and shock-factor oriented, tbh.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by Trollheart

Fixed that for you. Stop whining.

Nothing arbitrary about it. The rule would not have been needed had you not gone Chicken Hunting as you always do.

Yeah, and if MicShaz is told one song per artist only, he'll agree to that, unlike you, who always think your way is the only way. Now **** off or I won't even listen to those ICP tracks at all.

Sigh. In the interest of you furthering your ICP knowledge I will chill. For now. But you know how this goes.

Originally Posted by Trollheart

This is actually one of the most ludicrous things you've ever posted. It's the exact opposite. A good way - the best way - to get into any genre is to explore as many and as varied artists within that genre as you can, otherwise you just "like one or two artists in [insert genre here]" and cannot be said to have truly experienced, explored and appreciated the genre. Like people who "like Heavy Metal" but are only into Metallica.

No, throwing a wide net on a genre is good for dipping your toes in, but at some point you're going to need to delve deeper into an artist's discography or else you're going to have a pretty shallow understanding of a genre and will likely not be very invested in it.

[Trollheart]

Originally Posted by Qwertyy

more hippity hoppity

This was just ok. Shamrock Hip-hop though? Seemed way too long and basically just repeated what could have been a 2:30/3 minute song. All right though.

[Trollheart]

Originally Posted by rubber soul

Got one for you. Call it electronic avant-garde circa 1970


(Bruce Haack- Electric To Me Turn)

Ah that was great fun. Waits on calliope with one of the guys from Daft Punk on vocoder! Vocoders can be so hilarious when used properly. Gave me a good laugh, though whether I'd want to hear more is debatable. Novelty tune for sure.