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Old 12-09-2017, 10:00 PM   #81 (permalink)
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To be fair, 10/10 only means >= 95%. We're talking a range, not a point.
Yes, now that you mention it this is true given the possible ratings here. I'd still save the >=95% for some of the greatest achievements in the history of man/or absolute favourites (and 9 out of ten still extremely exclusive) (not saying this album isn't, I'm talking more about moderate enthusiasm followed by high ratings).
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Old 12-09-2017, 11:52 PM   #82 (permalink)
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If not every song is a 10/10 then I don't think the album can be considered a 10: it can't be 'pulled up to 10' if every part of the album is not platonically perfect. I'd argue that 10/10 is literally impossible, and I think that people underestimate how amazing, say, 8/10 is: there is a well known fallacy wherein people vote from 7-10 instead of from 1-10. I've seen a few posters say things like 'it's solid but not amazing' and then give it a 9, a huge mismatch. That language suggests a 7 or so IMO.

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Like I said Starman is a great song. It is like a 14/10 which is being added to any two songs on the album that are 8/10 so all three songs together end up averaging out as 10/10. So the album as a whole is 10/10. It is about the Law of Averages.
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Like I said Starman is great song. It is like a 14/10 which is being added to any two songs on the album that are 8/10 so all three songs together end up averaging out as 10/10. So the album as a whole is 10/10. It is about the Law of Averages.
That's my point though: a tendency to see 10 as the start of greatness rather than the 100% perfection that it implies: instead of say, 7.5 being the start of greatness. Again, though, I don't have a problem with people seeing it this way, it's just a bit new to me and I'm more curious than anything.
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Old 12-10-2017, 12:38 AM   #84 (permalink)
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That's my point though: a tendency to see 10 as the start of greatness rather than the 100% perfection that it implies: instead of say, 7.5 being the start of greatness. Again, though, I don't have a problem with people seeing it this way, it's just a bit new to me and I'm more curious than anything.
7.5 being the start of greatness? Getting a 75 on a test (which was getting 75% of the answers right) was not the starting point of greatness, not as a student it wasn't. That was the starting point of failure. Scoring 75 on a test was like telling you if you didn't do better you risk failing.
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It is like a 14/10...
Oh! So, there are songs on there that are a million times better than some others,
so can I just raise my rating to, say, 831,739 - 'cause, you know, it's my
alternate innumerate reality that I'm going by and so should everyone else?
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7.5 being the start of greatness? Getting a 75 on a test (which was getting 75% of the answers right) was not the starting point of greatness, not as a student it wasn't. That was the starting point of failure. Scoring 75 on a test was like telling you if you didn't do better you risk failing.
There's a difference between a test and a piece of music: if you get perfect marks for a test that simply means you got everything right that the test asks. In music the possibilities are nearly endless and a 10/10 would mean making the most of the possibilities of music in order to create something that nothing else could compete with as far as the stimulation it provides from start to finish. It would be like, an instantaneous orgasm from the first note that lasted until the end of the work without succumbing to any cramps or there being any end of it in sight.
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Oh! So, there are songs on there that are a million times better than some others,
so can I just raise my rating to, say, 831,739 - 'cause, you know, it's my
alternate innumerate reality that I'm going by and so should everyone else?
Yeah. The reason Starman scored a 14/10 is cause I am factoring in an four extra credits cause the song is going beyond and above the call of duty. It goes beyond the regular "oh, it's a good song." They did every thing right so they gets a normal 10/10. But it has a certain je ne sais quoi. There is something more about it, something mythical, something magical, so the need for 4 extra credit points being added to its 10/10. It totally makes good sense to me.
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There's no option for 9.6 anyways. If it's either 9 or 10, and you think it's closer to a 10, what rating are you gonna give?
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There's no option for 9.6 anyways. If it's either 9 or 10, and you think it's closer to a 10, what rating are you gonna give?
Usually you round up 9.6 to 10.
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That's my point though: a tendency to see 10 as the start of greatness rather than the 100% perfection that it implies: instead of say, 7.5 being the start of greatness. Again, though, I don't have a problem with people seeing it this way, it's just a bit new to me and I'm more curious than anything.
I think you're over thinking a rating system. A 10/10 doesn't mean something is perfect. One of my all-time favorite albums, a 10/10, is Jalamanta by Brant Bjork. I wouldn't call it a perfect album though. The singing is too low in the mix, the drums can be too loud. But every time I hear the album it's still an amazing experience that I love. And anything less then a 10/10 feels wrong.

Ratings are not a measurement of perfection. You cannot measure perfection in art. You can only measure personal enjoyment.
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