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Neapolitan 12-09-2017 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by josht23musiclover (Post 1902397)
That's my point though: a tendency to see 10 as the start of greatness rather than the 100% perfection that it implies: instead of say, 7.5 being the start of greatness. Again, though, I don't have a problem with people seeing it this way, it's just a bit new to me and I'm more curious than anything.

7.5 being the start of greatness? :confused: Getting a 75 on a test (which was getting 75% of the answers right) was not the starting point of greatness, not as a student it wasn't. That was the starting point of failure. Scoring 75 on a test was like telling you if you didn't do better you risk failing.

rostasi 12-09-2017 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1902396)
It is like a 14/10...

Oh! So, there are songs on there that are a million times better than some others,
so can I just raise my rating to, say, 831,739 - 'cause, you know, it's my
alternate innumerate reality that I'm going by and so should everyone else?

josht23musiclover 12-09-2017 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1902399)
7.5 being the start of greatness? :confused: Getting a 75 on a test (which was getting 75% of the answers right) was not the starting point of greatness, not as a student it wasn't. That was the starting point of failure. Scoring 75 on a test was like telling you if you didn't do better you risk failing.

There's a difference between a test and a piece of music: if you get perfect marks for a test that simply means you got everything right that the test asks. In music the possibilities are nearly endless and a 10/10 would mean making the most of the possibilities of music in order to create something that nothing else could compete with as far as the stimulation it provides from start to finish. It would be like, an instantaneous orgasm from the first note that lasted until the end of the work without succumbing to any cramps or there being any end of it in sight.

Neapolitan 12-09-2017 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by rostasi (Post 1902401)
Oh! So, there are songs on there that are a million times better than some others,
so can I just raise my rating to, say, 831,739 - 'cause, you know, it's my
alternate innumerate reality that I'm going by and so should everyone else?

Yeah. The reason Starman scored a 14/10 is cause I am factoring in an four extra credits cause the song is going beyond and above the call of duty. It goes beyond the regular "oh, it's a good song." They did every thing right so they gets a normal 10/10. But it has a certain je ne sais quoi. There is something more about it, something mythical, something magical, so the need for 4 extra credit points being added to its 10/10. It totally makes good sense to me.

Maajo 12-10-2017 12:05 AM

There's no option for 9.6 anyways. If it's either 9 or 10, and you think it's closer to a 10, what rating are you gonna give?

Neapolitan 12-10-2017 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Maajo (Post 1902406)
There's no option for 9.6 anyways. If it's either 9 or 10, and you think it's closer to a 10, what rating are you gonna give?

Usually you round up 9.6 to 10.

Blank. 12-10-2017 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by josht23musiclover (Post 1902397)
That's my point though: a tendency to see 10 as the start of greatness rather than the 100% perfection that it implies: instead of say, 7.5 being the start of greatness. Again, though, I don't have a problem with people seeing it this way, it's just a bit new to me and I'm more curious than anything.

I think you're over thinking a rating system. A 10/10 doesn't mean something is perfect. One of my all-time favorite albums, a 10/10, is Jalamanta by Brant Bjork. I wouldn't call it a perfect album though. The singing is too low in the mix, the drums can be too loud. But every time I hear the album it's still an amazing experience that I love. And anything less then a 10/10 feels wrong.

Ratings are not a measurement of perfection. You cannot measure perfection in art. You can only measure personal enjoyment.

josht23musiclover 12-10-2017 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Blank. (Post 1902408)

Ratings are not a measurement of perfection. You cannot measure perfection in art. You can only measure personal enjoyment.

I completely agree. I could further apply this to what I've been saying but I think it's gone too far already :P It's not a big deal.

Blank. 12-10-2017 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by josht23musiclover (Post 1902409)
I completely agree. I could further apply this to what I've been saying but I think it's gone too far already :P It's not a big deal.

You should watch this video. This guy gets into the rating system and its flaw. The same flaw this thread is guilty of.



Why spend so much time discussing a number rather then discussing the contents of the art. Why should I care about Anthony Fantano giving the album a 4. It's the more specific details he gives that I care about.

josht23musiclover 12-10-2017 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Blank. (Post 1902411)
You should watch this video. This guy gets into the rating system and its flaw. The same flaw this thread is guilty of.



Why spend so much time discussing a number rather then discussing the contents of the art. Why should I care about Anthony Fantano giving the album a 4. It's the more specific details he gives that I care about.

I'll watch it shortly, a bit busy atm.

I agree also regarding content vs rating. It's just that this is a rating thread being used to determine what is a classic or not.


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