Music Banter - MB Classics: David Bowie - The Rise & Fall of Ziggy Stardust & the Spiders from Mars

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Originally Posted by TechnicLePanther (Post 1902620)

Another fine idea, but also kind of destroys the point of a cutoff for the "cream of the crop".

no because the only albums that make the list are the ones who are over an average of 7(?)

we're just sorting by which classic is more adored than the other. don't think there's an issue with separating something that's barely a 7 from something that's unanimously a 9.

Qwert's suggestion is the one I would've made.

The plan was to already do that Qwertyy. Since I only had one album so far I wasn't worried about it.

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Originally Posted by Blank. (Post 1902627)

The plan was to already do that Qwertyy. Since I only had one album so far I wasn't worried about it.

too late, im taking credit for the idea.

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Originally Posted by Blank. (Post 1902541)

Ok. The problem I have with this is that a number of people, myself included, only listen to one maybe two new albums a day.

So if we do it this way, we're asking people to submit roughly 71% of their music listening for a week. And with things like the Album Club we essentially take over all of their music listening for every week. I think by taking so much of their music listening time, we inturn will cause higher rates of people dropping out of the classics thread. I think it's better to go in the current path then to make these threads have a longer overall Shelf life.

That said, I think this Bowie thread is long since over and time to move on. I think the majority of the votes were from past experiences and not recent listens (which is fine).

Fair enough m8, np.

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Originally Posted by TechnicLePanther (Post 1902559)

@system 1 per week works for me

@rating 6 for me is not bad but I'm still apathetic about it.
5 is not good but again, I'm apathetic.
7 is a good album with some critical flaws that bring it down.
4 is a bad album but it's got several major good qualities.
8 is a good album with a few minimal flaws that bring it down.
3 is a bad album that has a handful of good aspects.
9 is a great album that is nearly flawless, or whose great aspects really make up for its flaws.
2 is a terrible album which is almost perfect in its ineptitude.
10 is a 9 that gives me something awesome that I can't get anywhere else.
1 is a 2 that gives me something awful that I can't get anywhere else. (Brokencyde, Crazy Frog)

10 - perfect
5 - average
0 - Beatloads

Obviously anything over or under 5 is above/below average.

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1902530)

So much this.

Do me a favor and listen to a FLAC version of Ziggy through a good set of headphones. The production is ****ing amazing.

Yeah tbh I agree with this.

I think I underrated it a bit because I've overplayed it then didn't listen to it for about four years and also cos it's frequently named as his best album when I don't think it is, it's a bit like naming Purple Rain as the best Prince album.

Anyway it deserves it's hype imo.

This is seen as one of the best albums of all time, one of Bowie´s best and I personally love it. This is the record which really set the idea of pursuing a career in music back when I first listened to it as a younger kid, plus it reminds me of my high school days and the situations and people I encountered there. With that said, it´s still far from Bowie´s best IMO. The 1976-1980 era, composed by Station to Station (my favorite record of all time), Low, Heroes, Lodger and Scary Monsters is Bowie´s greatest period. Depending on the day, I might even dare to say that Station, Low and Scary Monsters are the best albums ever created. Anyways, back to Ziggy.
The album presents some classic poprock songs, like Starman, Moonage Daydream, Ziggy Stardust and Suffragette City. There are some deep-cut Bowie classics like Five Years, Hang On to Yourself and one of my favorite Bowie songs, Rock n´Roll Suicide. A true masterpiece that song.
Some of the most notable aspects of the album are the narrative and Mick Ronson´s guitar work, which is simply out of this world. He deserved way more recognition than the one he got, truly a one of a kind musician. On the narrative, the story of Ziggy Stardust reflects the early 70s very well, and has become an almost cliché-ish trope when telling a story of stardom and excess.
All in all, it is undeniably a phenomenal piece of rock music, but overrated to a certain degree,
9/10

This is an absolute classic. Bowie creates a almost perfect album. But it is always missing a certain je ne sais quoi for me to give that 10. 9/10

Current average: 8.8

Scary Monsters is >>>>>>>>>>>

Teenage Wildlife >>>>>>>>>>>