MB Classics: David Bowie - The Rise & Fall of Ziggy Stardust & the Spiders from Mars - Music Banter Music Banter

Go Back   Music Banter > The Music Forums > General Music
Register Blogging Today's Posts
Welcome to Music Banter Forum! Make sure to register - it's free and very quick! You have to register before you can post and participate in our discussions with over 70,000 other registered members. After you create your free account, you will be able to customize many options, you will have the full access to over 1,100,000 posts.

View Poll Results: Rate it!
10 10 41.67%
9 6 25.00%
8 4 16.67%
7 2 8.33%
6 1 4.17%
5 1 4.17%
4 0 0%
3 0 0%
2 0 0%
1 0 0%
Voters: 24. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-10-2017, 01:28 AM   #91 (permalink)
Music Addict
 
josht23musiclover's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 91
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blank. View Post

Ratings are not a measurement of perfection. You cannot measure perfection in art. You can only measure personal enjoyment.
I completely agree. I could further apply this to what I've been saying but I think it's gone too far already :P It's not a big deal.
josht23musiclover is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2017, 01:33 AM   #92 (permalink)
Jacob Sartorius
 
Blank.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Dank memes
Posts: 4,033
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by josht23musiclover View Post
I completely agree. I could further apply this to what I've been saying but I think it's gone too far already :P It's not a big deal.
You should watch this video. This guy gets into the rating system and its flaw. The same flaw this thread is guilty of.



Why spend so much time discussing a number rather then discussing the contents of the art. Why should I care about Anthony Fantano giving the album a 4. It's the more specific details he gives that I care about.
Blank. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2017, 01:43 AM   #93 (permalink)
Music Addict
 
josht23musiclover's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 91
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blank. View Post
You should watch this video. This guy gets into the rating system and its flaw. The same flaw this thread is guilty of.



Why spend so much time discussing a number rather then discussing the contents of the art. Why should I care about Anthony Fantano giving the album a 4. It's the more specific details he gives that I care about.
I'll watch it shortly, a bit busy atm.

I agree also regarding content vs rating. It's just that this is a rating thread being used to determine what is a classic or not.
josht23musiclover is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2017, 01:51 AM   #94 (permalink)
Jacob Sartorius
 
Blank.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Dank memes
Posts: 4,033
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by josht23musiclover View Post
I'll watch it shortly, a bit busy atm.

I agree also regarding content vs rating. It's just that this is a rating thread being used to determine what is a classic or not.
You're missing the general idea of what's being tried to achieve and that's just conversation about music itself.

Right now we have the conversation away from Bowie and his 72 classic to the positives and negatives of a rating system. What's happening in the poll should be meaningless to a small extent.
Blank. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2017, 02:39 AM   #95 (permalink)
Music Addict
 
josht23musiclover's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 91
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blank. View Post
You're missing the general idea of what's being tried to achieve and that's just conversation about music itself.

Right now we have the conversation away from Bowie and his 72 classic to the positives and negatives of a rating system. What's happening in the poll should be meaningless to a small extent.
Fair call: my apologies.
josht23musiclover is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2017, 06:20 AM   #96 (permalink)
.
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 4,007
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Neapolitan View Post
Yeah. The reason Starman scored a 14/10 is cause I am factoring in an four extra credits cause the song is going beyond and above the call of duty. It goes beyond the regular "oh, it's a good song." They did every thing right so they gets a normal 10/10. But it has a certain je ne sais quoi. There is something more about it, something mythical, something magical, so the need for 4 extra credit points being added to its 10/10. It totally makes good sense to me.
Why "4" and not 30 extra points? I mean, why not; since we're in meaningless meta-mathematical no man's land? The reason it doesn't work as if you're grading papers is because rating things based on taste, is, like I said earlier, usually linear. Going by your logarithmic way, it would mean that Frownland's score of 5 would mean that the album was worse than a failure (something that's as "meaningful" as 14 out of ten). Same thing if you apply it to any other product review - Yelp or otherwise. Rotten Tomatoes doesn't say, "The movie went 'beyond and above the call of duty," so I give it 140%" or a Yelp review of a restaurant that gives it a 3 star (meaning "good") would, in your system, be a complete failure at an equivalent 60%.

If we really are just wanting to talk about the music, then why even have the rating system? 'Cause that's what we do here - pit people and things against each other.

I'm rethinking my review. Since I think it's a cool record, I'll have to take the formula for the speed of sound thru ice and calculate each tune's placement within each calculated sound/time space and probably have to resort to Baire's Theorem to come up with a similar meta-math that gives an answer outside rational boundaries ... or, I'll just continue with the scale of "1" equaling "crap," "5" equaling "average," and "10" being nearly unobtainable perfection.
rostasi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2017, 06:35 AM   #97 (permalink)
Call me Mustard
 
rubber soul's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Pepperland
Posts: 2,642
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blank. View Post
Lol. You're still mad about that? Dude, I don't care. Go cry about it somewhere else. Make your vote count or don't.



I'm not mad. I just didn't know whether I was welcome here. Believe me, you're really not worth it.

Anyway, yeah, I gave it a 10/10. I only rate Hunky Dory higher as far as Bowie albums go and the influence Ziggy Stardust had in rock n roll is pretty much insurmountable.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pet_Sounds View Post
But looking for quality interaction on MB is like trying to stay hydrated by drinking salt water.
rubber soul is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2017, 06:43 AM   #98 (permalink)
.
 
grindy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: .
Posts: 7,201
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rubber soul View Post
I'm not mad. I just didn't know whether I was welcome here. Believe me, you're really not worth it.
You absolutely are. One of the best new members imo.
__________________
A smell of petroleum prevails throughout.
grindy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2017, 06:44 AM   #99 (permalink)
Born to be mild
 
Trollheart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: 404 Not Found
Posts: 26,994
Default

Up to yourself, Blank, of course, but if you wanted you could replace the ratings with just results the way we do it in the album club: Loved it, Liked it, Hated it etc. Might make it easier for people to rate. Then the more Loved it you get the better the chance the album has of being a classic. Or not. Just a suggestion.
__________________
Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018
Trollheart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-10-2017, 07:27 AM   #100 (permalink)
one-balled nipple jockey
 
OccultHawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Dirty Souf Biatch
Posts: 22,006
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by grindy View Post
You absolutely are. One of the best new members imo.
He also has a huge penis
__________________

2016 2017 2018 2019 2020

Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion

Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND:

https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html

OccultHawk is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Similar Threads



© 2003-2024 Advameg, Inc.