Idina Menzel ****ing Appreciation Thread

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

Whataboutism.

Dude that was a ****ing great episode. Oliver talking logic and fallacies automatically sets off the dopamine center in my brain.

[Trollheart]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

Have you noticed how often I don't talk about Ke$ha or Britney Spears' looks when talking about them ad nauseum? Cause it very honestly just doesn't occur to me to talk about it cause I just want to talk about their music and delightful images, even though I'd happily bum both. And this is from someone who's completely on their dick and who has the PC culture of a retarded donkey. But you do it pretty often. Pretty often anyone talks about an attractive female artist and aren't into them when you're in the conversation you respond with, "But you'd do them, right?"

From someone who's gone on as much as you have about Vanilla, a human being who you know (internet-wise), or any number of other members of this site, it comes across as very condescending.

You're just so full of it. I think I've made, at most, six of those sort of comments, all meant in laddish fun, in my six-odd (some of them very odd) years here. That's one a ****ing year! Whereas you, you pal, have been temp-banned for calling a newbie a slut. So who's the MCP now, huh? And I have no idea what you mean about Vanilla: we got on very well and she knew how I felt about her, knew I knew nothing would ever come of our friendship other than friendship, not to mention the distance between us AND the fact that I was not actually interested in her sexually. I just played that up they way you do, for laughs. You probably won't believe me, but you know what, **** you. I don't care. But please don't tell me I'm a certain type of person, because you don't know me. You know me on the internet, not in real life. Any woman I've interacted with will tell you I'm a nice, respectful, quiet guy who does not do sexual innuendo, unless as a shared joke.

If you check my albums thread, I've reviewed plenty of albums by female artistes, and I think I may have made an off-colour (and joking) comment once, about some K-pop girls. In my journals I doubt you'll find anything of that nature. I don't make a habit of saying these things; I do, like you, make these comments to fit in and for a laugh. Big difference to being an actual pig. So kindly don't lump me in with your own base behaviour pal.

For a guy on a forum where there's a thread called "Marry Snog or Avoid" (which I've never even gone into as it happens) and for someone with what comes across as one of the lowest opinions of women I've ever met, or close anyway, well, meet Mister Kettle. And what makes you suddenly the guardian of morality here? You left yourself wide open for a joke, I made it, you jump on me as if it's some sexual slur? Cram it, son.

Tealdear: one comment every year is hardly evidence of being an MCP.
Even tealerdeer: **** off.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by Trollheart

You're just so full of it. I think I've made, at most, six of those sort of comments, all meant in laddish fun, in my six-odd (some of them very odd) years here.

More like 60.

[Trollheart]

Originally Posted by Frownland

More like 60.

I doubt it. But even if that were so, that's ten a year. It's still hardly what you'd call constant. And anyway, as I said and you decided to obviously ignore, they're all said in fun. It's not like I'm a ****ing aspiring rapist or something.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by Trollheart

I doubt it. But even if that were so, that's ten a year. It's still hardly what you'd call constant. And anyway, as I said and you decided to obviously ignore, they're all said in fun. It's not like I'm a ****ing aspiring rapist or something.

Trust me TH, he's not just ****ting on you, you constantly do this. You can still be creepy and demeaning without intending to. It's not as serious as a lot of things, but it's worth being conscious of.

[Trollheart]

Originally Posted by Frownland

Trust me TH, he's not just ****ting on you, you constantly do this. You can still be creepy and demeaning without intending to. It's not as serious as a lot of things, but it's worth being conscious of.

If you're not just ****ing with me as usual, I'll take it on board and make no more comments, and if anyone took anything I said as hurtful or insensitive or creepy, I apologise. Nothing was meant by it. I'm not that sort of person.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by Trollheart

If you're not just ****ing with me as usual, I'll take it on board and make no more comments, and if anyone took anything I said as hurtful or insensitive or creepy, I apologise. Nothing was meant by it. I'm not that sort of person.

I think more than being hurtful, it demonstrates how you feel deep down if your go to playful joke is always a lewd comment when a woman is in the discussion. Again, not a massive deal but it's worth being conscious of.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by elphenor

re: whataboutism

not at all

I'm asking you consider that if you're dissatisfied with society it's because something is very well wrong with society

most people are even aware of this but they are placated by one thing or another, usually procreation

It was whataboutism because my point is that those who feel dissatisfied with society can develop a prejudice against society that can be detrimental to their objectivity, and you responded with, well society can suck. That has nothing to do with my point and only serves to push the onus entirely on mainstream society.

[OccultHawk]

the easiest thing in the world to do is to reject people before they reject you and to rationalize that position.

Fair enough.

On a related note, when I was you’re age it was a lot easier to make a go of it. One example, is college tuition has increased 10 fold. And student loans were only 3% apr or even lower. Plus, it wasn’t like tax evasion if you didn’t pay your student loans. And it was much harder for creditors to track you. **** wasn’t centralized like it is now. It was much easier to make a solid go at life. A “good” economy today ****s more people than a recession did thirty years ago.

Your generation has real grit. Not only are the cards stacked way the **** against you but you still give a **** about other people. It’s impressive when I hear how much empathy younger people have. I guess my generation was the first in a long time to have it worse than our parents but y’all didn’t even get to have our childhoods back when middle class was still a thing.

[Trollheart]

Originally Posted by Frownland

I think more than being hurtful, it demonstrates how you feel deep down if your go to playful joke is always a lewd comment when a woman is in the discussion. Again, not a massive deal but it's worth being conscious of.

All right. Noted. Thanks. Really.