MB Album Exchange!

**Frownland** · 11-30-2017, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam

That Boom Bip/Doseone album that you've shown me before is another I think I'll warm to eventually. It's got some really interesting qualities to it.

lol didn't even see this.

~~MicShazam~~ · 11-30-2017, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

lol didn't even see this.

I've actually kept that one around on a youtube playlist since you first mentioned it. Then got reminded of it again recently. So, yeah, not a bad recommendation.

The Batlord · 11-30-2017, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam

Violent J - Wizard of the Hood

So this is an album from "Violent J", not The Insane Clown Posse... except he's in that group and it's really the same thing musically and with all the apparent features from his mates, it basically is an ICP record... or am I wrong? I'm going to relate this album somewhat to ICP since that's sort of a connection that's hard to get around given that group's notoriety.

It's really more of a Psychopathic Records all-stars release (Psychopathic being ICP's personal label). Violent J is the main ICP member, with the other, Shaggy, being the Wizard, with the other three (the Scarecrow, Tin Man, and Lion) being other artists on Psychopathic Records. But they would have been all huge personalities for the fanbase so that album would have been an event, ICP or not.

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Every song on this album is legitimately different from the one before it. There's a surprising variety of sounds, genre references and moods. Even the rapping occasionally gives way to something approaching a sung vocal hook.

These musical arrangements even get a little weird at times - dare one say even a bit inventive.

Honestly the reason I thought you might be a good person to rec this to rather than just a fun troll. ICP if nothing else have something odd going on, even if at this point they'd lost their best songwriter in their producer, Mike E. Clark, but he'd built such a sound at this point that they still managed to come up with gold without him. But Mike was still the best actual musical thing about the group. If I'd been more serious about this rec I'd have probably given you an earlier ICP album with him on it. Mike E. Clark is legit one of the more interesting producers you'll hear and he's helped to build ICP's empire with a unique and bizarre sound.

But even so the performances on this album are still odd enough that I was curious what you would think. And you gotta admit, "Homies 2 Smoke With" had one of the more amusing hooks you've heard in a while. Still one of my fav juggalo albums, just an album you should probably hear after a few more juggalo albums under your belt.

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Subtlety or nuance do not exist on this album. Every musical idea is right up in your face; comes at you like a frisky crack addict in a Barney costume and I don't feel like I'll "click" with this album, even if I heard it a thousand times.

But yeah, hell yeah. The upfront nature of the album is one of the more fun aspects. It doesn't try to be revolutionary in any sense, but it just tries to have fun while also being something you just don't generally hear. I guess if there's anything truly inventive about this it's probably cribbed from the preceding ICP album Shangri-La, which this is very much in line with and intentionally as it was sort of an era for the juggalo community. I think this album is just better and more consistent.

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Just before closing time, I'm starting on a 5th spin - hoping that perhaps I'll have some final observation to make. I'm certainly thinking that I won't be missing any of the vocalists on this album. Also, for a bunch of fat white dudes, aren't those "hood" accents kind of forced? I don't know... I'm not American.

Shrug. Kind of hard to figure out what rapper is faking it tbh. I mean all these guys are from **** town Detroit, so they're at least respectably po', but how much they're faking it I don't know. But they're obviously playing their voices up, cause that's just what they do.

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Thanks, Batty! I really hate that I didn't get to force you to listen to something on return.

An honest opinion not informed by internet bully posts is refreshing.

~~[MERIT]~~ · 11-30-2017, 04:10 PM

ARTIST: Misophone

ALBUM: Where Has It Gone, All the Beautiful Music of Our Grandparents? It Died With Them, That's Where It Went...

RELEASE DATE: June 14, 2007

TRACK LIST:
1) White Waves
2) Nothing Down There But Trees
3) Deluded And Obscene
4) You Can't Break A Broken Heart
5) It's Good To Be Alive
6) Song Thrush
7) Turning Hay In The Fields
8) Seaweed On The Rocks
9) The Sea Has Spoken
10) Petroleum Lampa
11) Don't Be Afraid
12) Tired Of Silly Dreams

SUGGESTED BY Pet_Sounds

White Waves
The opening of the album hearkened back to the Christmases of my youth. It had joy in its bones. I'm quite sure that's not what they were going for, but that opening track would be welcome at any Christmas celebration IMO.

Nothing Down There But Trees
The production value on this track is HORRENDOUS. I'm not sure if apartment-synth-folk-crap is what they were going for, but they nailed it.

Deluded And Obscene
I really enjoyed the "hacky, slacky, smacky" sound of this track. It kind of reminded me of some of Conor Oberst's work in BrightEyes. I really dig the hushed vocals.

You Can't Break A Broken Heart
Again, another Christmasy sounding song. Maybe it's just that time of that season LOL. They could have made the vocals a bit stronger. I liked it though. Very poignant.

It's Good To Be Alive
The album starts to grow some balls! Production value is lacking, but BALLS there be! Sounds like something you'd dance to at a gypsy party. I dig it. Mediterranean vibes.

Song Thrush
Short interlude. Nice for what it is. Very harmonic and ginger.

Turning Hay In The Fields
We start with something that sounds like it is out of a Polish Opera. I can picture some Cossacks line dancing to it. Sounds a little Yiddish.

Seaweed On The Rocks
This album is all over the place LOL. This is one long instrumental intro! More hushed vocals. I appreciate it for what it is.

The Sea Has Spoken
Some lovely violin music for the intro. This is a very dreamy song. It picks up with more melody! I can fuck with it. Aaaaand back to drab. But Icarus finds the light! The vocals commence. I picture a Persian truck driver playing this song in his cassette deck, gleefully. More hushed vocals, like they have a secret to tell us :O Back to drab and despair.

Petroleum Lampa
Music befitting a child's video game, progressing into a bit of hipster folk rock. I like it. It's enticing! Did they start speaking a different language?

Don't Be Afraid
Feeling like this album might have finally found its soul. Nope. It was a bait and switch. Carnival music? You can do better than that!

Tired Of Silly Dreams
Last track. Last chance to impress. Sounds like the last ride at the carnival. Aaaaand your time is up. Album, why you have to disappoint me so much???

~~MicShazam~~ · 11-30-2017, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

An honest opinion not informed by internet bully posts is refreshing.

I hope most of my post managed to be that and not just that final jab at the end. But as a group, their reputation very much precedes them, so it's tough to just listen.

**Frownland** · 11-30-2017, 04:22 PM

Ja Batlord has really opened my eyes on ICP in the past with his thread for that purpose. I used to think that they ****ing sucked and now I just think that they regular suck.

~~MicShazam~~ · 11-30-2017, 04:24 PM

That's not an insignificant difference. Given their reputation, I'd say they're being unfairly maligned. It's not something I would listen to, but it's not this unimaginably terrible, embarrassing pop cultural disaster zone either.

The Batlord · 11-30-2017, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam

I hope most of my post managed to be that and not just that final jab at the end. But as a group, their reputation very much precedes them, so it's tough to just listen.

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Ja Batlord has really opened my eyes on ICP in the past with his thread for that purpose. I used to think that they ****ing sucked and now I just think that they regular suck.

Honestly if I can improve their reputation to Frownland of all people then that's a pretty ****ing big accomplishment. Their are five million and one artists who have nothing going for them but being able to kind of do justice to a genre that so many other artists have done better but who have no real reason to like but one or two songs, but for an artist like ICP to have such an idiosyncratic style that has no real comparison then that in itself is evidence of quality. At the very least it's evidence that the idea of calling them the worst band ever is just dumb. And yeah that's actually a victory as far as ICP are concerned with most music fans. I'll take what I can get.

Honestly I have two albums to rec Frown when he's ready. One of supreme quality and one that's different enough possibly to interest him. I don't suspect that he'll like them, but I'm curious if he'll at least give a "huh, better than I thought".

**Frownland** · 11-30-2017, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Honestly if I can improve their reputation to Frownland of all people then that's a pretty ****ing big accomplishment. Their are five million and one artists who have nothing going for them but being able to kind of do justice to a genre that so many other artists have done better but who have no real reason to like but one or two songs, but for an artist like ICP to have such an idiosyncratic style that has no real comparison then that in itself is evidence of quality. At the very least it's evidence that the idea of calling them the worst band ever is just dumb. And yeah that's actually a victory as far as ICP are concerned with most music fans. I'll take what I can get.

Honestly I have two albums to rec Frown when he's ready. One of supreme quality and one that's different enough possibly to interest him. I don't suspect that he'll like them, but I'm curious if he'll at least give a "huh, better than I thought".

I think you've done all of the opinion-softening you could do, mate. They're still 1 star records.

The Batlord · 11-30-2017, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I think you've done all of the opinion-softening you could do, mate. They're still 1 star records.

1.5 and you know it.

11-30-2017, 04:22 PM	#186 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Ja Batlord has really opened my eyes on ICP in the past with his thread for that purpose. I used to think that they ***ing sucked and now I just think that they regular suck. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth.* d e a f b o x

11-30-2017, 04:10 PM	#184 (permalink)
~~[MERIT]~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Missouri, USA Posts: 4,814	ARTIST: Misophone ALBUM: Where Has It Gone, All the Beautiful Music of Our Grandparents? It Died With Them, That's Where It Went... RELEASE DATE: June 14, 2007 TRACK LIST: 1) White Waves 2) Nothing Down There But Trees 3) Deluded And Obscene 4) You Can't Break A Broken Heart 5) It's Good To Be Alive 6) Song Thrush 7) Turning Hay In The Fields 8) Seaweed On The Rocks 9) The Sea Has Spoken 10) Petroleum Lampa 11) Don't Be Afraid 12) Tired Of Silly Dreams SUGGESTED BY Pet_Sounds *White Waves* The opening of the album hearkened back to the Christmases of my youth. It had joy in its bones. I'm quite sure that's not what they were going for, but that opening track would be welcome at any Christmas celebration IMO. *Nothing Down There But Trees* The production value on this track is HORRENDOUS. I'm not sure if apartment-synth-folk-crap is what they were going for, but they nailed it. *Deluded And Obscene* I really enjoyed the "hacky, slacky, smacky" sound of this track. It kind of reminded me of some of Conor Oberst's work in BrightEyes. I really dig the hushed vocals. *You Can't Break A Broken Heart* Again, another Christmasy sounding song. Maybe it's just that time of that season LOL. They could have made the vocals a bit stronger. I liked it though. Very poignant. *It's Good To Be Alive* The album starts to grow some balls! Production value is lacking, but BALLS there be! Sounds like something you'd dance to at a gypsy party. I dig it. Mediterranean vibes. *Song Thrush* Short interlude. Nice for what it is. Very harmonic and ginger. *Turning Hay In The Fields* We start with something that sounds like it is out of a Polish Opera. I can picture some Cossacks line dancing to it. Sounds a little Yiddish. *Seaweed On The Rocks* This album is all over the place LOL. This is one long instrumental intro! More hushed vocals. I appreciate it for what it is. *The Sea Has Spoken* Some lovely violin music for the intro. This is a very dreamy song. It picks up with more melody! I can fuck with it. Aaaaand back to drab. But Icarus finds the light! The vocals commence. I picture a Persian truck driver playing this song in his cassette deck, gleefully. More hushed vocals, like they have a secret to tell us :O Back to drab and despair. *Petroleum Lampa* Music befitting a child's video game, progressing into a bit of hipster folk rock. I like it. It's enticing! Did they start speaking a different language? *Don't Be Afraid* Feeling like this album might have finally found its soul. Nope. It was a bait and switch. Carnival music? You can do better than that! *Tired Of Silly Dreams* Last track. Last chance to impress. Sounds like the last ride at the carnival. Aaaaand your time is up. Album, why you have to disappoint me so much???

11-30-2017, 04:24 PM	#187 (permalink)
~~MicShazam~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Aalborg Posts: 7,634	That's not an insignificant difference. Given their reputation, I'd say they're being unfairly maligned. It's not something I would listen to, but it's not this unimaginably terrible, embarrassing pop cultural disaster zone either.