Lucem Ferre

My judgement comes from the superficial first listen most times. Finding out some kind of hidden concept or complexities to the songs or an album makes me appreciate it more most times.

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MicShazam

I agree. These days*, I'm actually often quite impressed with the thoughtful progressions of well written pop and singer-songwriter tunes. There can be a lot of pretty nuanced, but subtle things going on with chords, key changes, melodies, background vocals and other vocal layering, little details to add some atmosphere, thematic development, etc.

*and with "these days" I didn't mean necessarily modern songs, but more that I'm personally more able to appreciate the finely crafted simplicity of much music than I used to be.

innerspaceboy

I try very hard not to hate any artist. But I have a special level of detestation reserved for Bono. Honestly, I've only heard about 15 seconds of U2's music. But the man's politics on creativity and copyright trump even that of Lars Ulrich.

In early 2010, Bono penned a New York Times editorial in which he explicitly called on Western nations to produce Chinese-style national firewalls to protect fledgling artists’ incomes. He wrote, “But we know from America’s noble effort to stop child pornography, not to mention China’s ignoble effort to suppress online dissent, that it’s perfectly possible to track content online."

F*uck you, Bono.

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MicShazam

They had a couple allright songs waaaaaay back.

rubber soul

I find Bono to be rather pretentious myself but that doesn't take away from the fact (IMO) that U2 made some amazing albums in the eighties and early nineties. Of course from Zooropa on, I kind of agree they suck.

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Frownland

U2 is number one on the list so get ready to be made fun of.

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Ol’ Qwerty Bastard

tbh most artists that im not supposed to like are liked by a fair few of the members here. i mentioned before that i still have a thing for early 2000s radio hip-hop so i guess stuff like 50 Cent, The Game, Lil Wayne, Ludacris, etc that i don't see people ever talk about on here. it's all one dimensional as **** but i like it so whatevs.

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Janszoon

In answer to the OP: U2. This forum is the only place I've ever seen them slagged off so severely but I guess it's this forum we're talking about. I haven't been interested in anything they've done in the past 20 years or so but they were decent at one time.

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Trollheart

U2 are a great example. But though I would not class myself as a fan (I have the Greatest Hits and All You Can't Leave Behind, which is a great album **** you all) I wonder if most (obviously not all, ELPH!) people's hatred of U2 stems from what ISB says about Bono. Is it the self-righteousness of this man that makes most of you hate U2's music? I mean, "New Year's Day", "The Unforgettable Fire", "Where the Streets Have No Name" ... these are all great songs. You don't agree? And I say this not being a fan as I already mentioned, so don't give me **** as a fanboy.

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Frownland

Bono's self-righteousness is not a part of it for me, I could honestly care less about that. What makes me dislike them is their dull and bloated music.

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