What makes music cheesy?

**Janszoon** · 10-28-2017, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic

^ That's interesting. We don't really use the word "sappy" in the UK- maybe that's why "cheesy" does double service for us.

We do have the word "soppy", but I've only heard that applied to people; someone who is overly sentimental or prone to crying. Usually applied to girls or women, 'cuz you know, that's what they do.

It sounds like "soppy" and "sappy" mean the same thing, it's just that "sappy" isn't really used to apply to people.

Trollheart · 10-28-2017, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic

^ That's interesting. We don't really use the word "sappy" in the UK- maybe that's why "cheesy" does double service for us.

We do have the word "soppy", but I've only heard that applied to people; someone who is overly sentimental or prone to crying. Usually applied to girls or women, 'cuz you know, that's what they do.

^ Yes, I'm sure most of us regard this as a very bad sign. We much prefer the sincere, empassioned underdog who pays his dues and is finally recognized for his talent. Step forward every MB member who is also a musician:

Two bands famous for being marketing creations are The Monkees and The Spice Girls. Any others?

Boyzone were literally created as part of Louis Walsh's drive to "create the male Spice Girls". Can't get more market-fashioned than that. Also, every artist who ever became famous through the X Factor or American Idol.

Dylstew · 10-28-2017, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

plebs these days

The 80's were more cheesy than the Netherlands and France combined.

The Batlord · 10-28-2017, 10:32 PM

80s pop is some of the most dated pop ever tbh. Michael Jackson can be straight up cringey 80s.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 10-28-2017, 10:46 PM

the reason why i love 80s pop so much is because of how dated it sounds

Chula Vista · 10-28-2017, 10:49 PM

I think there's some confusion in terms here.

Corny is pretending but not done in a cool way, so we have corny jokes that pretend to be humour or wit, but the jokes are just dull or crummy.

Meanwhile, Tacky is generally something visible or is more visual in complexion. So we have tacky outfits that we can see (and judge) to be tasteless, gaudy or loud and not really suitable for the occasion.

Cheesy is just low-quality stuff (figuratively speaking) that we could all detect, determine or see that can’t stand up to our own standards (whatever the standards may be). So we have cheesy remarks or even cheesy ways of doing things that we can destroy or rip apart according to your own high tastes.

Dio, one of the greatest HM singers ever, was by no means cheesy. His visual dungeons and dragons presentation was certainly tacky at times.

Sames goes for a lot of the 80s stuff. Some great songs and production but the whole 'new wave' visual vibe was tacky as hell, and a lot of the whole aqua net 80's hair metal stuff was pretty corny.

All three adjectives are most definitely in the eye of the beholder.

The Batlord · 10-28-2017, 10:49 PM

I love me some 80s Madonna, but in general it doesn't move me.

Chula Vista · 10-28-2017, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I love me some 80s Madonna, but in general it doesn't move me.

Tears for Fears - Songs From the Big Chair, The Fixx - Reach the Beach, Mister Mister - Welcome to the Real World, Mike and the Mechanics - Living Years, Skid Row - Debut Album, Living Color - Vivid, and Faith no More - The Real Thing are just a handful that still hold up for me from the 80s.

The list of stuff that doesn't is much longer to be sure.

The Batlord · 10-28-2017, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Tears for Fears - Songs From the Big Chair, The Fixx - Reach the Beach, Mister Mister - Welcome to the Real World, Mike and the Mechanics - Living Years, Skid Row - Debut Album, Living Color - Vivid, and Faith no More - The Real Thing are just a handful that still hold up for me from the 80s.

The list of stuff that doesn't is much longer to be sure.

You know what I mean. And don't come at me like I don't love me some Skid Row. The follow up to Dr. Feelgood we never got.

Chula Vista · 10-28-2017, 11:36 PM

Saw them open for Aerosmith after their debut and they ****ing kicked major wads of ass. Aerosmith should have retired later that evening.

10-28-2017, 10:49 PM	#46 (permalink)
Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	I think there's some confusion in terms here. Corny is pretending but not done in a cool way, so we have corny jokes that pretend to be humour or wit, but the jokes are just dull or crummy. Meanwhile, Tacky is generally something visible or is more visual in complexion. So we have tacky outfits that we can see (and judge) to be tasteless, gaudy or loud and not really suitable for the occasion. Cheesy is just low-quality stuff (figuratively speaking) that we could all detect, determine or see that can’t stand up to our own standards (whatever the standards may be). So we have cheesy remarks or even cheesy ways of doing things that we can destroy or rip apart according to your own high tastes. Dio, one of the greatest HM singers ever, was by no means cheesy. His visual dungeons and dragons presentation was certainly tacky at times. Sames goes for a lot of the 80s stuff. Some great songs and production but the whole 'new wave' visual vibe was tacky as hell, and a lot of the whole aqua net 80's hair metal stuff was pretty corny. All three adjectives are most definitely in the eye of the beholder. __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

10-28-2017, 11:36 PM	#50 (permalink)
Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	Saw them open for Aerosmith after their debut and they ****ing kicked major wads of ass. Aerosmith should have retired later that evening. __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”