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Old 10-20-2017, 01:24 PM   #191 (permalink)
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XXXTeensensation was accused of beating and torturing a pregnant girl all while still getting tons of praise and accolades and rising to fame. I get why that would piss somebody off. But, yeah, you still have a good point.
Who cares? It's not like I'm having him over for dinner.
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Old 10-20-2017, 01:32 PM   #192 (permalink)
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Who cares? It's not like I'm having him over for dinner.
And even if you did he'd probably have some excellent placenta casserole.
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Old 10-20-2017, 01:39 PM   #193 (permalink)
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And even if you did he'd probably have some excellent placenta casserole.
Just don't let him BBQ.
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Old 10-20-2017, 02:06 PM   #194 (permalink)
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Who cares? It's not like I'm having him over for dinner.
He'd probably have you for dinner. With a nice Chianti. Or something.
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Old 10-20-2017, 02:29 PM   #195 (permalink)
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Why aren't you ****ting on your BFF Qwerty for gushing over Burzum? Varg Vikernes is a murdering white supremacist who should never be paid another cent since he has his own white supremacist organization that may or may not be bull**** for the sake of Nazi cred. From what I hear he even manipulated a woman into harassing a member of another band who I guess he didn't like. Even manipulated someone else into trying to break him out of jail. And have you seen his bat**** crazy Youtube posts? Do you give Qwerty a pass because of just how cartoonish Varg is, or just because you like Qwerty? Or because it's become a musical meme that's lost any emotional power? Or are we all just missing out on condemnatory PMs?

Calm down and just let people like the music they like.
it is kinda weird that liking Varg has become a meme. it's like "haha, he's so crazy, good ol' Varg!" in reality he's actually a very ****ed up person who should be as far away from the public's eye as possible.

but yeah, separate art from the artist always. thing is, XXX's music is ****ing garbage so it doesn't really matter.
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Old 10-20-2017, 02:44 PM   #196 (permalink)
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it is kinda weird that liking Varg has become a meme. it's like "haha, he's so crazy, good ol' Varg!" in reality he's actually a very ****ed up person who should be as far away from the public's eye as possible.

but yeah, separate art from the artist always. thing is, XXX's music is ****ing garbage so it doesn't really matter.
As far as I'm concerned Varg should be as far into the public's eye as possible. How boring is pop culture? How fun would Varg make it? I mean who cares about respectability and good taste when we can have all sorts of fun with murder, Nazism and Thulean perspective?
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Old 10-21-2017, 10:18 AM   #197 (permalink)
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That's condescending. I just like his music.

For him, I found his music before I knew the ****ty things he's accused of. I still like it because I enjoy music, I don't care about the novelty of music, just the music. I'm sure there are a few artists you like that have done ****ty ****ed up things that aren't public knowledge because they aren't in the spotlight.

If the accusations end up being true, because you have to give him the benefit the doubt, and I honestly don't doubt he'd done it because he seems emotionally disturbed, (she also seems like a shady bitch too so there's probably a middle ground) then I'll probably never buy anything from him again and just steal all of his music. But I can't sit there and high road anybody. It's just the most lazy and superficial appeal to morality there is. Okay, so you won't appreciate the music of somebody who is accused of doing horrible ****, you're so above me. I hope they give you a shiny metal atop your pedestal. For me, I'm not going to fake ****, I'm not going to deny indulging in something I really enjoy and I'm not going to do what the others do and rip any musical credit or merit that he deserves just because of the **** he's done. This art speaks to the souls of a lot of people like me, and it honestly helps because I am as emotionally unstable as him so why rip the one good thing he's doing in spite of the disgusting things he's done? This whole thing where I can't like his music because of this or that just comes off really fake to me. And I'm really good at spotting fake ****.

And as for his fans being apologetic, they're ****ing stupid. I have a bad habit of liking things with ****ty fan bases.
I didn't mean to be condescending, I think I was pretty high when I wrote lack of tsste because I distinctly remember that I was trying to write difference in taste idk I'm sorry. I understand how he'd help you and I understood that from the beginning and I wasn't really trying to inslut you so I'm sorry that I did. I don't necessarily feel like I'm on a moral highground for hating him but I'm also caught in a circlejerk of my friends hating him and his actions so it's hard to seperate those ideas and discussion from you and your positions. I apoligize.
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Old 10-21-2017, 02:14 PM   #200 (permalink)
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I didn't mean to be condescending, I think I was pretty high when I wrote lack of tsste because I distinctly remember that I was trying to write difference in taste idk I'm sorry. I understand how he'd help you and I understood that from the beginning and I wasn't really trying to inslut you so I'm sorry that I did. I don't necessarily feel like I'm on a moral highground for hating him but I'm also caught in a circlejerk of my friends hating him and his actions so it's hard to seperate those ideas and discussion from you and your positions. I apoligize.
No it's fine, I understand why people hate him and why people have a problem with separating the two. I ran into two fans last night at a party and one of them mentioned that if he's found guilty he doesn't think he could listen to his music ever again.

Plus, you're kinda right about a lot of his fans defending what he may have did and saying stupid ****. I've seen it happen.
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