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Frownland 03-17-2018 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1933919)
I'll be heading soon, but I just want to touch on a few points before I wrap things up. I wrote my farewell post this morning about 4AM, so I hadn't time to say all I wanted to. Feel free to skip the following wall of text if you want.

First, thanks to those who have said they'll miss me, especially Lisna, MicShaz, Batty and Gigantic Debaser. Also I'd like to say goodbye and thanks to the other friends I made here - Plankton, Jansz, Exo, Chiomara, innerspaceboy, Qwerty, Anteater, and all the rest of you (some there may be surprised to hear me describe you as friends, and may not see yourself as such, but at least I don't consider you enemies). A typical comment from Frownland, of course, who will certainly not be sad to see me go. How surprising. And Hawk unrepentant, as if I'd expect anything else.

Second, and this is directed to MLM, with all due respect, you have no cause to be saying "I see no bullying", as you have not been subject to it, but I have.

For the past few months, and longer, I've been coming here and working away, but it's become increasingly obvious to me that there's less and less point. There's very little interaction (for me, at any rate) that doesn't involve sniping and insults. In this thread, it's something of an indictment that the person posting most, other than myself, has been Frownland, and unsurprisingly almost every one of those posts has been negative, and many have started off rows between him and I, into which, usually, Batty will chime. I worked hard on this thread, and really wanted to finish it, but hey, if nobody else cares why should I?

I've been asking myself the question more and more: why do I come here every day, or at all? Is it for enjoyment? It used to be, but not any more. Now it's like ducking down a dark alley at night, hoping you won't get mugged, or going to a job you hate and can't wait to leave. Is it, then, out of a sense of duty? To who? Those who are supposedly reading what I write? They don't care. To myself? Do I really want to slog in another six months here just to get this finished? So what am I left with? Why do I come here? What do I get out of it? The great, unanswered question.

There's no doubt that it's been the snide jabs from Hawk on the subject of my writing, though, that has pushed this over the edge for me. I tried, I really did. I did my best to go with it, take it in good part, share in the joke. But it's not a joke. He just kept stabbing and stabbing and would not stop. So Hawk, this is for you.

You're a sad, lonely, angry little man who has never accomplished anything in his life, and never will. Your delight seems to be to direct your self-loathing and frustration at the nearest soft target. You think you can say what you like, and there are no consequences, and everyone should just accept it because it's you. Well, you know what? **** you. You are, without question, even more of a **** than Frownland, and that's saying something. I tried constantly to figure out if you were just joking, pushing my buttons about my writing, but all you're doing is insulting me, and considering the total **** that you write, it would be amusing if it wasn't so nasty and uncalled-for. There are only so many times I can laugh it off, shrug and say "Ah it's just Hawk." Not cool. Not cool at all.

Those who think I'll be back, let me make this abudantly clear. I will not. Apart from anything else, although grindy is now kind of standing up and saying things went too far, the lack of (for want of a better word) protection for members here sucks. Mods? Nobody does anything. Everyone is happy just leaving things go along as they are. The occasional “tone it down guys” message that's heeded for a day and then cheerfully ignored as the perpetrators go back to their old ways. Nobody is punished, nobody receives bans for anything meaningful, and so everyone fends for themselves. And I did, for as long as I could. I considered putting Hawk on Ignore, but knew that with Frownland as his partner in crime, they'd see I had done that and then make sure he quoted any posts Hawk made, so it would not work.

And you know what? Odd as this may seem, I'm tired of being laughed at. Every thread I start is either made a joke of or hijacked. My efforts to make this place a little more bearable are constantly shot down, someone (the terrible trio usually) always has a problem with some aspect of anything I'm doing, and I get to thinking, why the **** am I even bothering? So I'm not, not any more. I have enough pressures at home to be dealing with. I come – used to come – here to escape that, but recently it's been like battling through a storm to get home, only to find your house has blown away and you still have to face the wind and the rain. There's no shelter.

I am sensitive, yes. Call me a wimp bitch or whatever the **** you want, I don't care, but I like people to treat me as I would treat them, and while I did my best to give as good as I got, there were things said here about me that I would never had said about anyone. It's ****ing exhausting, let me tell you, keeping your head down and your shield up, battling through all the negativity. I don't need this ****.

Oh, and yeah, laugh and sneer and comment on this wall of text. I'm sure many of you will. I have no doubt it will invoke the usual comments about tampons, menopause, vaginas, the whole ugly panoply of insults and sneers. I really don't care. But if I'm leaving here, I'll be damned if I'm going without saying what I feel, and explaining why I don't believe I can be a part of this forum any more.

I'm packing up but not yet gone. I'll be here for a day or two more before I log out. Feel free to post or PM if you want to say anything to me before I go. It will almost certainly be your last opportunity.

For those wondering, yes, it is seven years, almost. I joined in 2008 but left and then came back in 2011, so I see that as being the proper start of my time here. Not that it's important, but I noticed the odd surprised comment about the length of time I believed I was here. Mostly, it's been fun, but in recent times it's become less so, and now I really can't answer that question, why do I come here? So like they say on those casino websites
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It goes without saying that you'll be missed. You're a regular member who contributes a lot to the music side of the forum and that's very valuable. Hopefully you're doing alright everywhere else in life now and from now on if you stay away. If you don't have a blog already, that might be a good way to fulfill your music critic/writing/bants and rants needs.

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When you know, as grindy has pointed out, that you're not being taken as being funny, clever or smart any more and the person you're directing your oh-so-witty comments at does not appreciate them, anyone with an ounce of decency will stop, change their approach. The old "I was only joking, no offence" deal. But neither of you two ever have. If anything, you seem to delight in getting me more and more angry and upset. I know you do.
I'm sorry if you see my intentions as malicious. I might get annoyed by some elements of your posting style, but that doesn't mean that I dislike you. I don't mean any ill will towards you, rubber soul (welcome back I guess? Odd time to come back) or anyone else here. Don't think that I have any kind of personal vendetta against you, it's just a matter of statistics to be honest. I interact with most of the members here similarly (joking around while still trying to have a discussion) and you happen to post a lot so of course we will have a lot of interaction. I also really enjoy discussing ideas which can be very personal, so it's easy to see some of my posts as personal attacks when I see it as a good-natured conversation.

OccultHawk 03-17-2018 01:25 PM

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There's no doubt that it's been the snide jabs from Hawk on the subject of my writing, though, that has pushed this over the edge for me.
Whoomp there it is!



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You're a sad, lonely, angry little man who has never accomplished anything in his life, and never will.
I respect your candor. And, surprisingly, your ability to wrap up my life story with uncharacteristic dexterity. I think your distaste for me has brought out some new literary skills.

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Feel free to post or PM if you want to say anything to me before I go. It will almost certainly be your last opportunity.
I honestly really like you. I said before how much I respect how you care for your sister. I’m your most enthusiastic album club member. I don’t rag on people unless I like them. Remember how hard I ragged on Frownland for making that video in his mom’s kitchen. Or how much **** I gave elph for selling timeshares? Dude, I love Frown and elph. I also love Chula- but when he goes low I go lower. Batlord posted his picture and teased him relentlessly.

If you don’t leave, I will make a pledge never to tease you again. It’s too bad, because you swing back super hard and usually move on.

I really like reading your journal reviews and your jokes and your jabs. You’ve thrown out your share of haymakers, don’t even lie.

GD 03-17-2018 01:30 PM

He's serious about this, isn't he? Damn.

Well goodbye then, Trollheart. I'm sorry coming here is no longer rewarding for you. It's been nice chattin' with ya.

The Batlord 03-17-2018 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1933952)
Batlord posted his picture and teased him relentlessly.

Wait what pic? I remember nothing of this. But I'm pretty sure you almost never **** with me cause you're scared that I won't give you any of this D that you obviously crave so much, you fatass Albert Fish mother****er.

rubber soul 03-17-2018 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1933947)
I don't mean any ill will towards you, rubber soul (welcome back I guess? Odd time to come back)


Well, not really. I saw Troll was being driven out much like I was and I thought I should say something about it.

And I'm hoping this is a humbling moment for both you and Occult. Words do hurt and people don't know your intentions. As Pet Sounds noted, there are human beings behind these avatars.

I'm here (for today anyway) because I thought I should stick up for a friend. That's all I'm doing. Maybe Troll will come back ( I likely won't; I'm actually doing what you're suggesting Troll does). If he does, I hope even if he isn't appreciated, he's at least respected.

Because that's what all of us really wants, isn't it?

OccultHawk 03-17-2018 02:13 PM

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I'm hoping this is a humbling moment for both you and Occult

lulzzzz

OccultHawk 03-17-2018 02:19 PM

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As for you, Hawk, I hope you are taking note of all these comments. I know you have feelings too (our battle royale started, I believe, from me jokingly comparing you to Elph- maybe you were the one that was butt hurt and you had to lash out).
I don’t remember that but what’s wrong with elph?

What I remember is you comparing yourself to Goofle and Frown and I jumped on that because Goofle’s nail clippings know more about music than you do. Then you quit. You should finish your Top 25s.

Frownland 03-17-2018 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rubber soul (Post 1933986)
Well, not really. I saw Troll was being driven out much like I was and I thought I should say something about it.

And I'm hoping this is a humbling moment for both you and Occult. Words do hurt and people don't know your intentions. As Pet Sounds noted, there are human beings behind these avatars.

I'm here (for today anyway) because I thought I should stick up for a friend. That's all I'm doing. Maybe Troll will come back ( I likely won't; I'm actually doing what you're suggesting Troll does). If he does, I hope even if he isn't appreciated, he's at least respected.

Because that's what all of us really wants, isn't it?

Bye then. :wave:

Oriphiel 03-17-2018 02:21 PM

It's kinda weird that the only Irish member of MB is leaving on Saint Patrick's Day.

The Batlord 03-17-2018 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel (Post 1933993)
It's kinda weird that the only Irish member of MB is leaving on Saint Patrick's Day.

Probably because he doesn't drink.


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