Why do we hate music we hate?

The Batlord · 08-27-2017, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam

I've just seen her categorized as hip hop many times, but every site might have it's own opinion about an artist. I often disagree with Allmusic's categorizations, for example, even if if they're sort of the IMDB of music.

The basic template of hip hop is just incredibly dull to me: Looped beats with mostly rhythmically oriented vocals tracks on top. Often very little in the way of key changes or any notable chord changes. Low on melody too, although it can appear. When hip hop gets a bit more interesting, it's usually through vocal manipulation and weirder sampling. The problem is that soundscapes, beats and lyrics aren't what I love about music. I'm very big on melody, chord structures, key changes, forward moving song structures... exactly the things hip hop mostly ignores.

I generally agree to an extent, which is why I don't listen to hip hop that often. I guess I'd suggest Boom Bip & Dose One's Circle, since it's very different from that formula, to an extent I've really never heard in hip hop, but I'm dubious that it's different in a way that will appeal to you, as it's rather avant garde and obtuse. Still, you should hear it. It'll at least open your mind to the idea that hip hop doesn't have to be what you think it is.

Trollheart · 08-27-2017, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I generally agree to an extent, which is why I don't listen to hip hop that often. I guess I'd suggest Boom Bip & Dose One's Circle, since it's very different from that formula, to an extent I've really never heard in hip hop, but I'm dubious that it's different in a way that will appeal to you, as it's rather avant garde and obtuse. Still, you should hear it. It'll at least open your mind to the idea that hip hop doesn't have to be what you think it is.

You should rec him that Bones Thug thing we were talking about earlier, too.

The Batlord · 08-27-2017, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

You should rec him that Bones Thug thing we were talking about earlier, too.

True. He might actually dig that. It's easily a fav hip hop album for me, with some great and natural combinations of singing and rapping.

Honestly though I just want to see TH review Boom Bip & Dose One.

Trollheart · 08-27-2017, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

True. He might actually dig that. It's easily a fav hip hop album for me, with some great and natural combinations of singing and rapping.

Honestly though I just want to see TH review Boom Bip & Dose One.

My reviewing days are over.

The Batlord · 08-27-2017, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

My reviewing days are over.

If you make an exception for Boom Bip & Dose One I'll take your sister off your hands. She likes death metal, right?

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 08-27-2017, 02:56 PM

i remember kinda digging circle when Frown rec'd it to me but i'll be damned coming back to it now this thing is actually hard as ****

The Batlord · 08-27-2017, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy

i remember kinda digging circle when Frown rec'd it to me but i'll be damned coming back to it now this thing is actually hard as ****

Really? I worried about the same thing, but coming back to it now sober it's still fun as ****. I understand how some of the spoken word, non-song bits might be boring, but in general it's highly hard to dislike. I don't even "get it". But I'm kind of used to listening to "hard to get" albums and maybe finding a way to like them anyway cause you don't necessarily need to be musically literate to like musically literate music.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 08-27-2017, 03:13 PM

oh i meant hard as **** as in this thing goes hard as ****. it was a good thing.

it was kinda dope before but now it's hella uber white race caliber dope

The Batlord · 08-27-2017, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy

oh i meant hard as **** as in this thing goes hard as ****. it was a good thing.

it was kinda dope before but now it's hella uber white race caliber dope

Oh hell yeah, I'm snooted again and hyped for a replay of this album. In process btw.

I feel like Doseone always adapts with the song and never imposes himself on the song. So it somehow is not ambient, but because the flow and lyrics are so seamless yet jarring... I forget, but this **** is smooth as ****. God this is good.

I don't even know what this is and that's awesome and this is bizarre and amazing. I want more hip hop that can be this wild. That's why instrumental hip hop can be better than regular hip hop.

Edit: OMG I might have to change my avatar cause I don't want to see Dr. Phil talk about hip hop.

~~MicShazam~~ · 08-27-2017, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

True. He might actually dig that. It's easily a fav hip hop album for me, with some great and natural combinations of singing and rapping.

Honestly, that Boom Bip & Dose One thing was more fun to listen through than I expected it would be. I'm checking out the other one too sometime later.