Why do we hate music we hate?

**Janszoon** · 08-26-2017, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

How the **** are you from Boston and you don't like baked beans?

I'm from Boston and I don't like baked beans.

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea · 08-26-2017, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Most rap music does actually have melody though.

Yeah, like, 2 notes. Or maybe 3. And they aren't really "sung."

**Frownland** · 08-26-2017, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DriveYourCarDownToTheSea

Yeah, like, 2 notes. Or maybe 3. And they aren't really "sung."

Or 20k. Melody goes beyond vocals you know. And rapped vocals can melodic too.

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea · 08-27-2017, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Or 20k. Melody goes beyond vocals you know. And rapped vocals can melodic too.

Now you know as well as I that songs like that are the exception rather than the rule.

djchameleon · 08-26-2017, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DriveYourCarDownToTheSea

Yeah, like, 2 notes. Or maybe 3. And they aren't really "sung."

Since you have basically written off rap music. You don't know this but there are rappers doing the whole rap then sing thing within the same song.

Or just straight up singing.

Chula Vista · 08-26-2017, 11:45 PM

I'll take rap vocals over cookie monster stuff any day of the week. And even twice on Thursdays.

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea · 08-27-2017, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

Since you have basically written off rap music. You don't know this but there are rappers doing the whole rap then sing thing within the same song.

Or just straight up singing.

I don't even consider that to be rap. It's more like a gospel tune.

Neapolitan · 08-27-2017, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

Since you have basically written off rap music. You don't know this but there are rappers doing the whole rap then sing thing within the same song.

Or just straight up singing.

Just because "Rapper" is in his name doesn't mean everything he does is rap. That is more like a R&B tune by a 70s singer/songwriter than it is rapping or "gospel."

Del the Funky Homosapien was a bit melodic in his delivery. He didn't speak the words.

**Janszoon** · 08-27-2017, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DriveYourCarDownToTheSea

Yeah, like, 2 notes. Or maybe 3. And they aren't really "sung."

Singing isn't a prerequisite of melody. Bebop has oodles of melody but rarely has any vocals, for example. In hip hop songs, generally speaking, rapping is part of the rhythm and the melody comes from other instruments.

Trollheart · 08-27-2017, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Singing isn't a prerequisite of melody. Bebop has oodles of melody but rarely has any vocals, for example. In hip hop songs, generally speaking, rapping is part of the rhythm and the melody comes from other instruments.

To say nothing of scat. Then there's vocalise.
Not to mention this, where Waits doesn't sing by any definition; this is almost a rap, long before its time.

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