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Old 07-19-2017, 06:06 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Again, Watchmen, great as it is, requires a lot of concentration. I was thinking more your Spiderman, Batman, Thor, kind of I don't want to say mindless but compared to Alan Moore, not quite requiring as much brain work? Man, that sounds condescending, but I'm sure you know what I mean.
I don't think Alan Moore is particularly inaccessible tbh. There are plenty of layers to peel back on repeated readings, but you don't have to take a college course to enjoy it like ****ing Ulysses. It's pretty easy to dig him even just on a surface level.
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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I don't think Alan Moore is particularly inaccessible tbh. There are plenty of layers to peel back on repeated readings, but you don't have to take a college course to enjoy it like ****ing Ulysses. It's pretty easy to dig him even just on a surface level.
Funny enough, I'm currently listening to the audiobook of Ulysses
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Don't think I've ever heard of that. And just about anything by Grant Morrison is also compulsory reading.
And I haven't heard of Grant Morrison, so yet another thing to check out for me. I need two lifetimes to get through all those movie/book/comic/music bookmarks by now.

I feel like some of Heart of Empire's single issue cover artwork sells it pretty well:

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I just bought the whole thing in a single book though. It's a really interesting combined fact/fantasy/sci-fi/renaissance/20th century story and setting. Fairly unique and very well written.

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Funny enough, I'm currently listening to the audiobook of Ulysses
I owned the book once. Read a couple chapters, then gave up.
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Old 07-19-2017, 06:15 PM   #54 (permalink)
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I don't think Alan Moore is particularly inaccessible tbh. There are plenty of layers to peel back on repeated readings, but you don't have to take a college course to enjoy it like ****ing Ulysses. It's pretty easy to dig him even just on a surface level.
I like that kinda thing where it's not complicated to get and enjoy the jist of it but there's a lot more to it. It rewards reconsuming, paying attention and thinking things through, without being esoteric and requiring too much.
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Old 07-19-2017, 06:41 PM   #55 (permalink)
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And I haven't heard of Grant Morrison, so yet another thing to check out for me. I need two lifetimes to get through all those movie/book/comic/music bookmarks by now.

I feel like some of Heart of Empire's single issue cover artwork sells it pretty well:

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https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...9ec515d5b1.jpg

I just bought the whole thing in a single book though. It's a really interesting combined fact/fantasy/sci-fi/renaissance/20th century story and setting. Fairly unique and very well written.
Bruh, Grant Morrison is a mad genius. I recently bought the omnibus to his run on New X-Men from the early 00s and it's at least a top 3 X-Men run. Quite possibly the last time they were ever interesting too, since his changes to the universe were so fundamentally progressive that Marvel decided they would never again step so far out of the status quo, and the series has been more or less stagnant ever since. And I'd already read the series before I bought it btw.

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And then there's Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth, the most cracked Batman graphic novel I've ever read. Psychologically interesting depictions of Batman and his enemies, combines with surrealistic art that often turns into dark collages of weirdness, to create what feels like Batman on acid. Morrison also has possibly the most interesting take on the Joker's psychology that I've seen.

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And years later he had a long tenure on the actual Batman monthly title that wasn't as bombastically bizarre, but was still highly odd and amazing. I'm still making my way through that as well.

Batman by Grant Morrison - Book 1 - 3 – GetComics


I honestly can't remember if I've read All-Star Superman, but it's cited by pretty much everybody as one of a handful of Supes stories to read if you don't like him. It's basically loosely based on the labours of Hercules, because Grant Morrison is obsessed with the idea of superheroes as modern day mythological characters. I'm gonna have to go read/reread that soon myself now that I kind of actually like Superman.

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He has a bunch of other **** that's at least, if not more influential, but I haven't read most of it or have only read a bit. Animal Man is pretty ****ing out there, Doom Patrol has been on my list for a long while as well, and the Invisibles is supposed to be his original work masterpiece as far as I've heard. He has lots more ****, but that should hopefully get you started. And you should get started.

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Didn't he also do Zenith?
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You need more dark folk in your life, OP.
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No, he doesn't.
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And then there's Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth, the most cracked Batman graphic novel I've ever read. Psychologically interesting depictions of Batman and his enemies, combines with surrealistic art that often turns into dark collages of weirdness, to create what feels like Batman on acid. Morrison also has possibly the most interesting take on the Joker's psychology that I've seen.
That one sounds pretty interesting. I could start with checking the main library. They've got a pretty amazing comics section and I'm going there tomorrow anyway.
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I like that kinda thing where it's not complicated to get and enjoy the jist of it but there's a lot more to it. It rewards reconsuming, paying attention and thinking things through, without being esoteric and requiring too much.
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And if you actually read Miracleman, when you get to the issue with a warning on the cover, "ATTENTION PARENTS: This issue contains graphic scenes of childbirth", that's not an idle threat.
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