Nothing to see here, move along

**Frownland** · 07-08-2017, 03:57 PM

I can see what he means about Beethoven and Mozart. So many performers are so ****ing sterile with their renditions.

~~MicShazam~~ · 07-08-2017, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

You should listen to all of those things except for Fogelberg.

I'm going to check out what Troll recommended and you can't stop me!
I didn't mind the embedded track, even if it didn't set my world on fire.

And yeah... I know little enough about classical that I wouldn't know what's a good rendition and what's bad.
Comes with experience, I guess.

~~MicShazam~~ · 07-08-2017, 04:05 PM

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Really?

Spoiler for my computer is melting from video overload:

Also, if you're going for Fogelberg I recommend Nether Lands, Phoenix, The Innocent Age and Souvenirs among others. For Woody you need to hear (if you don't already know it) "This land is your land". Stirring.

I'm going to check him out, plus I'll listen to those embedded Mozart and Co. tracks.
When it comes to classical, there's a lot to absorb. I find it easy enough to listen to a 4 minute song and make up my mind about it most of the time, but a whole orchestral suite doesn't necessarily have that immediate impact, so it becomes much harder and more time consuming to have an opinion on it/acquire a taste for it.

Trollheart · 07-08-2017, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam

I'm going to check him out, plus I'll listen to those embedded Mozart and Co. tracks.
When it comes to classical, there's a lot to absorb. I find it easy enough to listen to a 4 minute song and make up my mind about it most of the time, but a whole orchestral suite doesn't necessarily have that immediate impact, so it becomes much harder and more time consuming to have an opinon on it/acquire a taste for it.

First off, sorry: I'll put videos in spoilers for you in future. D'oh!
Secondly, yeah, classical in general, though there are some short pieces, tends to present itself through the likes of suites, symphonies and concertos, so to appreciate it (at least, I find it this way) you kind of have to listen to it all the way through. That Rachmaninoff I spoke of?

Spoiler for Rachmaninoff Piano Concerto No 2:

If you listen to it though, at some point you'll hear the main theme from Eric Carmen's 70s classic "All my myself"....

~~MicShazam~~ · 07-08-2017, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

First off, sorry: I'll put videos in spoilers for you in future. D'oh!
Secondly, yeah, classical in general, though there are some short pieces, tends to present itself through the likes of suites, symphonies and concertos, so to appreciate it (at least, I find it this way) you kind of have to listen to it all the way through. That Rachmaninoff I spoke of?

Spoiler for Rachmaninoff Piano Concerto No 2:

If you listen to it though, at some point you'll hear the main theme from Eric Carmen's 70s classic "All my myself"....

it's fine though - if mods deemed video overload a problem, there would have been a rule about it. I don't know what kinds of computers other people in here are using, but I'm on a Packard Bell laptop that I bought in 2013 and which was already outdated at that time. I'm taking good care of it, but it does choke easily if too much is going on. If I start earning some money, that's the first thing I'm changing.

I'm listening to the Rachmaninoff concerto right now. Feels like watching some old WW2 movie. Seems promising, but I still have to put the time in and see what happens. I usually feel like I can recognize that classical music has a lot of qualities to it, but the connection I have with a lot of other music isn't there. Probably because, again, I have to spend more time with it.

**Frownland** · 07-08-2017, 04:36 PM

Three or less videos is fine but for anything beyond that, embeds are a nice courtesy.

Chiomara · 07-08-2017, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam

Ugh Norah Jones for sure. After I've started listening to various vocal jazz divas, it's become very clear just how bland Norah is. If I ever have trouble sleeping, she'd probably do the trick. It's jazz for people who absolutely have no interest in jazz whatsoever.

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Here's an example of a song in a similar style to a lot of what Norah Jones did in the beginning, but way more charismatic and, you know, not boring.

The video isn't available in my country :c

Have you heard of Melanie de Biasio? She's a wonderful jazz singer.

~~MicShazam~~ · 07-08-2017, 05:22 PM

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The video isn't available in my country :c

Have you heard of Melanie de Biasio? She's a wonderful jazz singer.

I hate country restrictions!

In case that means you can't see what song it was, it was Julia Fordham with the song Who's That Girl. She's got a really nice, deep, sensual voice and the instrumentation is really vivid, yet laid back.

About the song you posted; I recognize the album cover, and I'm certain that I have heard Mélanie de Biasio somewhere over the last couple months where I've been checking out a ridiculous amount of music.

It's got an interesting feel to it. Feels like vocal jazz filtered through blues, if that makes sense. Good voice too.

**Frownland** · 07-08-2017, 05:33 PM

As a King Crimson fan, the beginning of this song is some of the most boring and pointless **** ever. Why can't they just skip the first four and a half minutes of bull**** and start the song at the cool part?

The Batlord · 07-08-2017, 05:37 PM

And if you don't like country then **** you.

07-08-2017, 03:57 PM	#51 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	I can see what he means about Beethoven and Mozart. So many performers are so ***ing sterile with their renditions. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth.* d e a f b o x

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Three or less videos is fine but for anything beyond that, embeds are a nice courtesy. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

07-08-2017, 05:33 PM	#59 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	As a King Crimson fan, the beginning of this song is some of the most boring and pointless ** ever. Why can't they just skip the first four and a half minutes of bull** and start the song at the cool part? __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x