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OccultHawk · 06-13-2017, 01:36 PM

Re: Springsteen

Full on crowd pleaser but didn't he start refusing to play Born to Run ages ago?

OccultHawk · 06-13-2017, 01:50 PM

It is a stupid tradition. I like when bands either make it clear they're done or say yeah we're gonna take about ten minutes to drink a beer and smoke a joint. Or if it's like KISS it's cool because you actually want to go bonkers for ten minutes.

Trollheart · 06-13-2017, 03:20 PM

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Both Van Morrison and Mark E Smith are idiosyncratic artists. I don't get the concern about which way they're facing, personally. I saw The Fall and don't remember him doing that on stage. Wouldn't have cared. I was at a ****ing Fall concert. I was ****ing thrilled. The Jesus and Mary Chain did that for the entire show on top of being hidden by fake fog. It was incredible. I saw both Sonic Youth and Prong give performances where they gave no pause at all for applause or audience interaction and I liked that a lot. Once I saw Sonic Youth another time and they didn't play a single recognizable song or use any vocals. I respected that it's Sonic Youth and seeing them do something especially experimental was really a treat but as a fan that was familiar with all their releases I also felt, and I'm kind of embarrassed to admit this, like they should have at least thrown us a bone. Like one known tune for an encore but they didn't even return for an encore. Dylan was the only one where I really thought like Christ this sucks. Because it did.

I maintain it's ignorant but whatever.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Re: Springsteen

Full on crowd pleaser but didn't he start refusing to play Born to Run ages ago?

This I do not know. I guess after forty years of playing it maybe he's pissed off. It would be a pity though as I'd consider that an essential encore.

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I'm not sure if I hate the practice of an encore or artists that don't just conform to the practice

either way it's a cocktease and sometimes there can be a good 20 minutes of clapping before everyone realizes dude is already on the tour bus

Always waits till the houselights come up.

I wonder if anyone has ever been to a gig where the band played, finished, intended to come back for an encore and everyone had gone?

Now that would be embarrassing!

Trollheart · 06-13-2017, 03:22 PM

On a point away from the live thing, isn't it Neil Peart who refuses to sign autographs for any fans? I think that's pretty dickish now.

The Batlord · 06-13-2017, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Re: Springsteen

Full on crowd pleaser but didn't he start refusing to play Born to Run ages ago?

One song down, now he just needs to get sick of the rest of his discography and I might actually go to a Springsteen show.

OccultHawk · 06-13-2017, 03:47 PM

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On a point away from the live thing, isn't it Neil Peart who refuses to sign autographs for any fans? I think that's pretty dickish now.

Have you ever looked on YouTube what it's like for famous people? It's a CONSTANT annoyance that is almost like a prison sentence. There's always people around that only want to sell it on eBay. You can't go to a baseball game or out to eat. If you buy a Rush ticket he plays the ****ing songs. He doesn't owe people **** when he's not working. Why bother him?

I'm a big Rush fan I saw you in Cleveland blah blah. I would get so ****ing sick of that.

Trollheart · 06-13-2017, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Have you ever looked on YouTube what it's like for famous people? It's a CONSTANT annoyance that is almost like a prison sentence. There's always people around that only want to sell it on eBay. You can't go to a baseball game or out to eat. If you buy a Rush ticket he plays the ****ing songs. He doesn't owe people **** when he's not working. Why bother him?

I'm a big Rush fan I saw you in Cleveland blah blah. I would get so ****ing sick of that.

Price of fame, pal. Price of fame. It's all part of the package; you can't just take the bits you like.

And you of all people I am surprised to hear sympathising with famous/rich people. Thought you hated all that ****?

OccultHawk · 06-13-2017, 03:59 PM

Yeah

I thought about that when I posted it

I guess it's an inconsistency

**Frownland** · 06-13-2017, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Have you ever looked on YouTube what it's like for famous people? It's a CONSTANT annoyance that is almost like a prison sentence. There's always people around that only want to sell it on eBay. You can't go to a baseball game or out to eat. If you buy a Rush ticket he plays the ****ing songs. He doesn't owe people **** when he's not working. Why bother him?

I'm a big Rush fan I saw you in Cleveland blah blah. I would get so ****ing sick of that.

It gets so annoying but you grow to ignore and get used to it like a cyst.

The Batlord · 06-13-2017, 04:37 PM

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Price of fame, pal. Price of fame. It's all part of the package; you can't just take the bits you like.

And you of all people I am surprised to hear sympathising with famous/rich people. Thought you hated all that ****?

I never liked that line of thinking. So, fans are entitled twats who don't really see celebrities as people so much as a potential experience to tell their friends about, and that's okay cause it's just that one guy we all want to hassle anyway who gets the shaft. This is the same mentality that killed Princess Diana. Yes, it was the photographers who ran her off the road, but the paparazzi wouldn't have been there in the first place if all of us didn't make it so ridiculously profitable to stalk celebrities with a camera.

I love me some celebrity news and **** when it's Lindsay Lohan in court again or Kanye West walking into a street sign, but I'm also not going to get self-righteous when they give me the finger. I'm a pimple on their ass as much as a part of the public who made them rich and famous in the first place. So if Neil Peart doesn't want to entertain everyone who thinks his time is community property then who am I to criticise him?

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