Show Biz Kids.....

**Frownland** · 06-13-2017, 12:45 PM

To all that I say: tough titties. If the concert isn't to your liking, don't see them when they come back around.

Trollheart · 06-13-2017, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

To all that I say: tough titties. If the concert isn't to your liking, don't see them when they come back around.

Yup. And enough people do that, they start to wonder why they can't sell tickets any more. I continue to listen to their live albums. Everybody wins. Except them.

**Frownland** · 06-13-2017, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Yup. And enough people do that, they start to wonder why they can't sell tickets any more. I continue to listen to their live albums. Everybody wins. Except them.

Whammo! That's what I've been saying this whole time. There are no rules of the proper performance, but you can help keep douchey artists at bay with your dollar.

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Originally Posted by elphenor

if you're seeing bands that cost more than $20 the jokes on you tbh

and funny enough you get the boring arena clap along you paid for I guess

I saw PiL for $40. What about that huh.

Trollheart · 06-13-2017, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

if you're seeing bands that cost more than $20 the jokes on you tbh

and funny enough you get the boring arena clap along you paid for I guess

I suppose I should really qualify that I haven't seen a band live since probably the end of the twentieth century. Don't have that option no more, things being as they are, y'know. So I guess much of what I'm talking about is kind of vicarious, or at least harking back to my youth, when yes, you could see Mamas Boys or Rory Gallagher for a fiver at The Stadium, but no more. Nevertheless, they always faced the audience and were a joy to watch perform.

I obviously never had any interest in seeing Morrison.

Edit: Also, I think we've become hung up on live performances, when the original topic was just about entitled rock stars. It's all good though, but there are other aspects to this than just gigs. Prince is definitely a good example of the latter: bitching about every instance of his music used even in YouTube videos in the background? I mean, really?

Trollheart · 06-13-2017, 12:56 PM

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my point is you are going to water down the performances if their job is to please fans and not to be The Artist

There's no reason why they can't do both. Springsteen does a three hour gig and gives it all he's got. There's no watering down of his performance. Same with Queen, when Freddie was alive. Same with a huge - I would even say the larger - percentage of artists. Most of them get as much of a kick out of playing live as the fans do. What about Iron Maiden?

**Frownland** · 06-13-2017, 12:57 PM

You're never gonna sell him on that idea using Springsteen as an example.

**Frownland** · 06-13-2017, 01:04 PM

I can smell the backsweat just reading about it.

Trollheart · 06-13-2017, 01:06 PM

**** him. I saw Springsteen on the Born in the USA tour at Slane and he killed it. But he's just one example. The fact is that as I said, the larger percentage of live acts WANT to interact with the audience and for them to interact with the band. Do you think Maiden would stop people clapping? Or Slayer? Or Zu? Zorn? This Heat? Robbie Williams? You-****ing-two?

Talk to most bands after/before a gig and they're buzzing, they're psyched, they're hyped up to give a great show. Waters is a prick, plain and simple, and Morrison is an dour, ignorant ****, but I hate his music anyway so that really means nothing coming from me.

Trollheart · 06-13-2017, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I saw Iron Maiden and yo that **** was boring I'm not sure if the music put me in a coma or the weed

Whether you enjoyed it or not is your problem. I guarantee you almost everyone else who went to that gig did enjoy it. But the point is, did Bruce stop playing Number of the Beast and say "Guys, please don't sing SIX SIX SIX: it would be better without that"????

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I can smell the backsweat just reading about it.

At least, you hope that's what you can smell!

**Frownland** · 06-13-2017, 01:08 PM

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Do you think Maiden would stop people clapping?

No they probably have a very firm "audience is the boss" philosophy.

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Or Slayer? Or Zu? Zorn? This Heat?

Clapping at one of those concerts would be weird. If they did I wouldn't care though, those clappers are likely drunk jackasses ruining the show for everyone.

06-13-2017, 12:45 PM	#31 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	To all that I say: tough titties. If the concert isn't to your liking, don't see them when they come back around. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	You're never gonna sell him on that idea using Springsteen as an example. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

06-13-2017, 01:04 PM	#37 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	I can smell the backsweat just reading about it. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

06-13-2017, 01:06 PM	#38 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,994	** him. I saw Springsteen on the Born in the USA tour at Slane and he killed it. But he's just one example. The fact is that as I said, the larger percentage of live acts WANT to interact with the audience and for them to interact with the band. Do you think Maiden would stop people clapping? Or Slayer? Or Zu? Zorn? This Heat? Robbie Williams? You-ing-two? Talk to most bands after/before a gig and they're buzzing, they're psyched, they're hyped up to give a great show. Waters is a prick, plain and simple, and Morrison is an dour, ignorant *, but I hate his music anyway so that really means nothing coming from me. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018*