Chula Vista

Ya, cause Goeff Emerick and George Martin were simply rip off artists.

Please.

Everything today has borrowed from yesterday. Don't make it a diss.

Although, I'm not sure who was the first to attack a guitar with a skewer......

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Frownland

That's the idea and obviously exactly how I feel, you nailed it.

Or maybe I'm just saying that the studio tricks they were doing had already been done by the 40s, which makes the 1967 tag less impressive. "Not first" is actually not even an insult, it's just kind of a fact.

I don't know who was the first to prepare the guitar, but I do know that Keith Rowe was a big innovator in that respect. If you want to go further back to just preparing (or as you say, attacking) instruments, it dates back to John Cage and Henry Cowell.

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Frownland

Found a pre-Rowe fella

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B8rn_Fongaard

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Chula Vista

You are a dullard if you are trying to discount Sgt. Peppers in any way shape or form.

Maybe you should just go and put 4'33 on a loop and listen to it for a few hours.

Frownland: "Beethoven's Symphony #5 is devirative".

Stop. Just stop.

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and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

Frownland

Take a step back, forget that I supposedly knocked the golden gods (even though I was literally the first to defend it in this thread), and think about it for a second.

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Chula Vista

Did I say "FIRST"?

Did I say "FIRST"?

Did I say "FIRST"?

Did I say "FIRST"?

Did I say "FIRST"?

Did I say "FIRST"?

Stop. Just stop you. I just asked the OP to listen to "A Day in the Life"

Another instance where you try to fit me into your boring narrative.

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on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away
and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

Frownland

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

You plopped yourself right into with the rip off comment and the "you can never discount Sgt. Pepper's in any way" bit. Is it an insult to The Beatles if I say that they weren't the first to use a guitar in their music? I recommend taking your own advice.

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OccultHawk

I got your back here Chula

It's awe inspiring. Looking for some petty way to diminish it shows you're still not ready for it. It's that great. It's not open to deification. It's been a God since the day it was released.

Frownland

lulz the old farts think I don't like A Day in the Life or that it not being the starting point of musique concrete is a negative thing.

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OccultHawk

There's no reason to point that out. Especially not in a snarky comment. I respect you but you're not in a place where you can lecture me on early electronic music.