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Old 06-11-2017, 06:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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...it's the Beatles....you know the Beatles?...and they're the Beatles? ....so you're meant to over analyse this subpar crap these drugged up Brits wrote before rock really became rock, analyse it more than Tool
Yes, tread lightly, please. Two things I would refute in your post:-
i) no-one is obliging anyone to over analyse anything. The approach I would encourage is to listen and decide for yourself if you like it or not.
ii) rock really became rock before Sgt. Pepper, not after.

If it's your opinion, go ahead and call Sgt. Pepper "subpar crap" but to call the Beatles "drugged up Brits" is a cheap way to belittle an extraordinarily talented band, and on what basis? Because they are British and because they took drugs. As I understand it, some American musicians have taken drugs too, but I've never heard anyone on MB dismissing "drugged up Yanks".
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Old 06-11-2017, 09:47 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Yes, tread lightly, please. Two things I would refute in your post:-
i) no-one is obliging anyone to over analyse anything. The approach I would encourage is to listen and decide for yourself if you like it or not.
ii) rock really became rock before Sgt. Pepper, not after.

If it's your opinion, go ahead and call Sgt. Pepper "subpar crap" but to call the Beatles "drugged up Brits" is a cheap way to belittle an extraordinarily talented band, and on what basis? Because they are British and because they took drugs. As I understand it, some American musicians have taken drugs too, but I've never heard anyone on MB dismissing "drugged up Yanks".
I use hyperbole a lot but my point isn't even anything against drugs.

1. People see too much into the Beatles and their place in the history of rock and music in general (as a classical fan too, I also believe the same of Mozart and Beethoven but that's another discussion)
2. Yes it is my opinion which I'm entitled to. The style, sound and songwriting of their music is just not as great as numerous other bands around the same time.
3. I think their acclaim comes more from the fact that they are the most well known and publicized band in the existence of rock, pop, post-blues/R&B, which gives them more god-like praise for innovations that we're already done before them but made them "notable" because of their said popularity
4. Yes, I like A day in the Life, it's good for what it is.

5. Probably other points too

I'm not in an angry mood, so I haven't prepped myself to make a full 15 points but hey
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Old 06-11-2017, 09:53 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I was just trying to help you understand how much easier it is to flippantly define a career when you don't like the career in question.
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I use hyperbole a lot but my point isn't even anything against drugs.

1. People see too much into the Beatles and their place in the history of rock and music in general (as a classical fan too, I also believe the same of Mozart and Beethoven but that's another discussion)
2. Yes it is my opinion which I'm entitled to. The style, sound and songwriting of their music is just not as great as numerous other bands around the same time.
3. I think their acclaim comes more from the fact that they are the most well known and publicized band in the existence of rock, pop, post-blues/R&B, which gives them more god-like praise for innovations that we're already done before them but made them "notable" because of their said popularity
4. Yes, I like A day in the Life, it's good for what it is.

5. Probably other points too

I'm not in an angry mood, so I haven't prepped myself to make a full 15 points but hey
I agree that sometimes the fans of certain groups tend to read into meaning that simply isn't there. Sometimes a tree in the middle of a field is simply a tree in the middle of a field.

However, what other bands really did what the Beatles did? No other band brought psych pop into the mainstream quite like the Beatles did. Its not a matter of how good or "innovative" the music is, but rather the album's place in history and how it shaped mainstream music to come.
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Well christ, I wish I could simplify the careers of one of the most accomplished bands of all time as simply, drugged up brits...

Also I am in on the Tool is boring circle jerk as well...
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Well christ, I wish I could simplify the careers of one of the most accomplished bands of all time as simply, drugged up brits...

Also I am in on the Tool is boring circle jerk as well...
Try it out on a band you don't like. Here's an example

Korn is just a bunch of methed out inbred who switched out meth for jebus.

Not counting the whole they're so important spiel, of course.
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Try it out on a band you don't like. Here's an example

Korn is just a bunch of methed out inbred who switched out meth for jebus.

Not counting the whole they're so important spiel, of course.
I mean, there is a slight difference between the Beatles and ****ing Korn.
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