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Old 06-10-2017, 10:00 PM   #91 (permalink)
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When was the last time you gave Taxman a serious listen?

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Don't float my boat, the bass part in the verse is cool but that's it
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Old 06-10-2017, 10:13 PM   #92 (permalink)
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Don't float my boat, the bass part in the verse is cool but that's it
What about the vocal harmonies and that guitar solo. Punk-like before punk existed.
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Old 06-10-2017, 10:25 PM   #93 (permalink)
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What about the vocal harmonies and that guitar solo. Punk-like before punk existed.
Enough with the Proto-Punk even the paraphrase version of it i.e. "Punk-like before punk existed." OK everyone and their uncle Bob knows the first Punk song is the the A-side of the Ramones debut single, Blitzkrieg Bop. That song was the greatest thing since Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band and everyone and their uncle Bob knows the Sgt Pepper album was the greatest thing since slice bread.

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It is a pretty punk like guitar solo.
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It is a pretty punk like guitar solo.
No. I think you got it backwards and are also confused. The closest I can think of a song like Taxman is Start! by The Jam, the song also borrows a bit from Doctor Robert as well. It is not a "Punk" song per se but more of a Mod-Revival song. I am not buying into your Taxman proto-Punk delusion.


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I don't hear the slightest whiff of punk whatsoever, Helter Skelter is far closer to punk, but even that is more like garage rock.


How could you hear punk in Taxman?
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It's closer to a psych freak out, which you could say is akin to a punk freak out.
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How could you hear punk in Taxman?
Just the form of the solo. Totally ignorning melody and just being brash.

Plus I'm old.
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I'm very firm on the Ramones inventing punk but punk rock roots... I can kind of get it. Punk was back to basics. Taxman has an aggressive feel. I agree the guitar solo is abrasive.
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I remember getting it on the remastered CD for christmas in like '09 or '10. Still holds up for me to this day. The Beatles were one of the first bands that I really dove deep into. I'm not really able to comment on its significance when it was first released but for me now it is a solid part of my childhood.
^ For me too, I.D. Matrix, although I got the original vinyl when it first came out (complete with gatefold sleeve and that disappointing cardboard cut-out inset page), so I'm claiming Old Bore's Bragging Rights on this one.

Sgt. P is packed with great songs imo and includes some of the Beatles best psychedelic lyrics. It feels to me like easily their greatest album, peppered ( geddit?) with innovative detail. Even the way it's part-concept and part not works well. with a couple of songs that change the mood and give us a rest from all the psychedelically-enhanced Victoriana. Last time I played it, the weak songs (Fixing A Hole) actually served as a welcome drop in intensity from the more densely-worked ones (Mr.Kite). People have said how the different styles of Lennon and McCartney complemented each other and nowhere is that clearer than on A Day In The Life, with its "Woke up, got out of bed" interlude.
Another Beatles' best on Sgt.Pepper is that for once Ringo's song was a neatly-integrated part of the whole effort, instead of being the novelty filler slot he was usually allocated (i.e. from Act Naturally to Octopus's Garden.)

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^ If this decision had gone the other way, it really would've sealed the deal on Sgt. P. as an album!
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