OccultHawk

In terms of change isn't it pretty obvious that music saw more important evolutions from 83-00? And if there is a stagnation does it even matter? 86-87 is the best time block from the earlier period but 2016 was the most incredible year of music during this whole time span (my opinions, obviously).

Any comments as to what's going on?

The Identity Matrix

Nostalgia is a hell of a drug.

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OccultHawk

Are you accusing me of being nostalgic or the last 17 years?

Trollheart

I think he's accusing you of being a junkie.

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The Identity Matrix

Of course not. You have lived through those times in music, if i'm not mistaken, so you have a much better foundation for this kind of discussion. It was just a joke. I just read your post and immediately thought of the wrong generation meme.

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OccultHawk

No offense taken. Nostalgia is obviously an important part of this discussion. Perhaps we're presently in a state of perpetual nostalgia. Or older developments seem more revolutionary to me because I was younger. What if we took another 17 year chunk 66-83? To me the first two 17 year chunks both saw more development. Maybe the obsession with newness and novelty became dull. Or maybe my hypothesis (stolen from Mark Fisher, btw) won't stand up to scrutiny.

Neapolitan

Well if went by my favorite from a personal taste I would pick '66 to around about '83. I don't know why it's broken into seventeen years, but if I tried to be unbiased as possible I would still pick '66 to '82. During that era there was (what is called) "Freak Beat," Psychedelic Rock, Soul, Acid Rock, Acid Folk, Folk Rock, Progressive Folk, Progressive Rock, Blues Rock, Uk Glam Rock, Soft Rock, experimental music/experimental Rock, Dawg music, electronic music, Southern Rock, (early forms of Metal), Art Rock, Punk Rock, Disco, Post-Punk, New Wave, Funk, Jazz-Fusion, NWOBHM, minimal synth, Reggae/Dub, and a few others. I am also a fan of music from 2000-2017, and I notice that a lot of bands take inspiration from music '66 to '83. Even hip hop samples their break beats from the drum breaks on late 60s R&B records.

Even during those years the method of recording changed as well. That time period saw the end of mono tape recording, to the birth of digital recording. George Martin said that Sgt. Pepper was one of the last albums recorded on (what he called) a three track at EMI. The first CD released was in Japan was 52nd Street by Billy Joel in 1982.

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The Batlord

As far as personal taste, definitely '83-'00 as it encompasses the majority of my favorite metal, along with a ****load of other ****, whereas I don't much listen to nearly as much music from '01 and on. Any option that includes the 80s is pretty much gonna win for me.

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OccultHawk

To be clear I'm not interested in the quality of the music but rather the degree to which pioneering music came about. It seems to me that the earlier time chunk wins that contest hands down when it comes to metal.

OccultHawk

And Bat, since you did qualify your statement as personal taste, let me ask you, how important is whether or not a band is pioneering important to you? Is their something about breaking important new ground that makes the music more enjoyable than a fantastic copycat?