1983-2000 Vs 2000-2017

**Frownland** · 06-06-2017, 05:13 PM

Actually, I think old and modern drone fans are two very different groups yes. Mostly because of the association that drone originally had with modern classical (ya know, being borne from it and all) that got swept away as the term modern classical became more expansive. I think this has led to drone and ambient becoming more casual genres, so to speak.

OccultHawk · 06-06-2017, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RJDG14

These are about the only songs I actually like from the past couple of years:

*I found Bob Mould's album from last year pretty memorable, much like the earlier Foo Fighters stuff
*I like Sean by Foo Fighters (from 2015) and it has a Husker Du vibe
*I like the song Presidici from The Jesus and Mary Chain's recent album
*I also enjoy some of the songs by Total Babes, in particular We'll Come Around, from 2015

I don't think you're making enough effort to dig. It's not like you have to go to record shops and ask them to sample **** for you like I did.

OccultHawk · 06-06-2017, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Actually, I think old and modern drone fans are two very different groups yes. Mostly because of the association that drone originally had with modern classical (ya know, being borne from it and all) that got swept away as the term modern classical became more expansive. I think this has led to drone and ambient becoming more casual genres, so to speak.

Yeah. I mean, fans of La Monte Young are obviously on a different level of sophistication.

**Frownland** · 06-06-2017, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

It's superior to the typical person five years out of college who pretends not to have time for music anymore. I'll take the opinion of a 16 year old over a 36 year old any day. Serious music fans (who irl are very rare) excluded. High school kids may almost universally reject good music that doesn't fit inside their peer designed boxes but the stuff the do herald usually has merit. Plus, with so many kids finding music on YouTube their tastes are often more exotic than you might think.

That's kind of my point though: the majority of high school students will grow up to be that typical person with locked in garbage taste as opposed to slightly fluid socially driven tastes. Obvious exceptions and all that, but I'd rather take musical advice from an older basic bitch because, as has been mentioned before, they've had time to strip away the fads and garbage, while younger listeners can't separate the two as easily. But you do have a good point with the internet, I guess I'm thinking of this pretty traditionally.

OccultHawk · 06-06-2017, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

have been listening to this 00's band a lot

Do they have any interest in stepping beyond The Fall?

I actually took immediate offense to wiki describing them as "no wave" a term I suppose I hold sacred for the time and place. Pioneering ethic in that case.

Not saying they're not a good band, btw.

OccultHawk · 06-06-2017, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

it's been my experience that adults I've worked with have sometimes had some great tastes, surprisingly so

because they get outside listening to music like it's the pair of sneakers you have to wear or else you won't get laid

but the majority of both populations don't care too much about music in general

But you neglect how unsocial and how uneffected by proximity of like minded peers the Internet has made things. A lot of kids favorite stuff is just other kids singing famous songs on YouTube. There's stuff that has caught on, obviously, but a surprising amount of the market share goes to whatever a kid bounces on on YouTube with no concern about anything except if it catches their attention. Extreme fragmentation means that weird interesting and unknown **** is a part of the norm. There's beauty in all kinds of things older people almost always disregard without even consideration.

High school kids don't care about music? Bull****. They identify with it the most.

**Frownland** · 06-06-2017, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Do they have any interest in stepping beyond The Fall?

I actually took immediate offense to wiki describing them as "no wave" a term I suppose I hold sacred for the time and place. Pioneering ethic in that case.

Not saying they're not a good band, btw.

What do you call artists inspired by the movement? Just post punk?

I get your philosophy but I still use it as a sound descriptor.

Blank. · 06-06-2017, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

it's been my experience that adults I've worked with have sometimes had some great tastes, surprisingly so

because they get outside listening to music like it's the pair of sneakers you have to wear or else you won't get laid

but the majority of both populations don't care too much about music in general

If liking Britney Spears means getting laid we'd all listen to her at every opportunity.

OccultHawk · 06-06-2017, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

What do you call artists inspired by the movement? Just post punk?

I get your philosophy but I still use it as a sound descriptor.

Yeah, just post punk. That scene was so revolutionary. You call a monk a Buddhist not a buddha.

Blank. · 06-06-2017, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

not me

this mentality is what I'm talking about though

I'm making fun of you. People aren't getting laid because they listen to an artist. And if they are... well, she's a hoe and you probably have herepes.

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