Separating the Art from the Artist

**Exo** · 05-11-2017, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

like the reason The Smiths work is because Morrissey is an insufferable narcissistic twat and a flamboyant homosexual

What's wrong with that?

bulbasaur · 05-11-2017, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs. Tristan Rosenstock

Jokes on you I never even listened to them that much to begin with. Bulb and Qwertyy are huge fans though.

i'm not reallly a fan of that song, but i dig the band. i get the whole separating the art from the artist thing, and it might be the more rational route, but the accusations (? seems like too much of a dismissive word) are still pretty disheartening / fucked up to read about. even more so for pwr bttm if you consider their ally status and how much they seemed to promote a safe place (?) for their fans; it's a pretty integral part of their music

~~Cuthbert~~ · 05-11-2017, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo

My opinion is that if you avoided all music made by douchebags, perverts, rapists, murderers, twats, greedy twats, assh*les, domestic abusers, scumbags, and total f*cking lunatics...then have fun listening to Dave Grohl for the rest of your life.

Exactly, if you stopped listening to music because the artist who made it did something you don't like, you'd have nothing left

I bought a Durrty Goodz album once, he's racist and an idiot, but I liked the album so I got it. I've bought all of Maniac's releases and he has done some horrible stuff but it's not gonna stop me listening to stuff I like and buying the releases.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 05-11-2017, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pet_Sounds

Unless an artist's ideology seeps into his/her art, I separate the art from the artist. I.e. I have no problem with enjoying music made by racists or rapists as long as the music itself does not condone racism or rape. If you boycott music made by people who have done abhorrent things, you wouldn't even be able to listen to this:

What did they do mate?

Also yeah to add to my post I'd draw the line at supporting an artist if I knew the money was funding something dodgy.

Mondo Bungle · 05-11-2017, 06:02 PM

I personally just got a lobotomy

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 05-11-2017, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs. Tristan Rosenstock

Jokes on you I never even listened to them that much to begin with. Bulb and Qwertyy are huge fans though.

this is the first ive heard of them lol

Trollheart · 05-11-2017, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey

What did they do mate?

Also yeah to add to my post I'd draw the line at supporting an artist if I knew the money was funding something dodgy.

I assume he's talking about Phil Spector, who produced and basically did everything with that record other than sing it.

As you probably know, I find it hard to separate art from artist in that way. I mean, I wouldn't necessarily turn off a Gary Glitter song if my legs and arms were amputated, but I do draw the line at Lostprophets, whose vocalist Ian Watkins was guilty of child abuse in the worst possible way, and the reasoning I give for never listening to their music again (other than that it wasn't really all that great in the first place) is that every time I hear that **** sing I want to punch his face in, so I could no longer enjoy the music.

But yeah, I'm sure most artists have skellys in the clos, and as they're dragged out I'd (if their music mattered to me) take it on a case by case basis. I don't necessarily have a problem with Burz, for instance. It can't be a blanket thing, but you do have to I think draw your own line over which you won't step, or will step back from.

Edit: I couldn't even make it through half of that crap. What an awful song.

Blank. · 05-11-2017, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

As you probably know, I find it hard to separate art from artist in that way. I mean, I wouldn't necessarily turn off a Gary Glitter song if my legs and arms were amputated, but I do draw the line at Lostprophets, whose vocalist Ian Watkins was guilty of child abuse in the worst possible way, and the reasoning I give for never listening to their music again (other than that it wasn't really all that great in the first place) is that every time I hear that **** sing I want to punch his face in, so I could no longer enjoy the music.

The Lost prophets case was so fucked that I almost cried. The fact that anyone can do what he did with no remorse makes me sick to my stomach. He deserves to be sentenced to death.

Trollheart · 05-11-2017, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 1blankmind

The Lost prophets case was so fucked that I almost cried. The fact that anyone can do what he did with no remorse makes me sick to my stomach. He deserves to be sentenced to death.

Amen to that, brother.

Blank. · 05-11-2017, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Amen to that, brother.

I shouldn't have went back and read the sentencing. He got 29 years and possibility for parole when he serves 2/3 of that.