Are you fed up?

LarsfromVinylyMusic · 01-03-2017, 02:49 PM

Hey Banter Forum People,

this is my first post, so I would like to say hello and greet all of you.

I am opening this thread because I would like to hear your opinion on the following Question:

You as a music listener, could you name your biggest struggle with your passion as a music listener? Or is everything great the way it is?

I am keeping my question as open as possible in order to not dictate any answers.

**Exo** · 01-03-2017, 02:53 PM

Am I fed up with what?

LarsfromVinylyMusic · 01-03-2017, 03:04 PM

I just cannot say what you might be fed up since I would like to get your uninfluenced answer. I am interested to see what bothers you as a music listener or what you struggle with. If there is anything that reduces your ability to enjoy music to the fullest, what would that be?

**Exo** · 01-03-2017, 03:16 PM

Okay. Your title just doesn't coincide with what you're asking. "Fed up" implies that something is bothering us so much that we are willing to stop doing that thing. Then your actual inquiry is just like "what annoys you a little bit". It's confusing.

To answer your question. I'm all good fam.

**Janszoon** · 01-03-2017, 03:18 PM

I'm fed up with notes be designated by letters. It's absurd. Emojis should be used instead.

Plankton · 01-03-2017, 03:20 PM

It's better now than when I was trying to find music I liked in the 80's and early 90's. Napster and the internet opened it all up. Now I can find whatever I want, whenever I want instead of having to record a tune off the radio, or borrow someone's 8-Track, cassette, CD, or album to copy, then return it (or not). It used to be a time when you'd go over to someone's house, and they'd put on a CD or whatever, and if you liked it, you'd have to jump in the car (or walk) and go to a record store and purchase it, if the person didn't want to loan it to you. Then, with time, the CD or what ever medium you purchased would scratch, get wet, break, wear out, etc. and you'd have to go buy it again.

I remember when I first discovered Napster. There were maybe a few thousand people on it, and you could search all their library's and cherry pick what you wanted. Then it exploded, and I started finding obscure albums like Orbital (it was obscure to me at that time) for an example, and bootlegs of things I hadn't hear before. I'd spend entire days at my job DL'ing loads of music, since we had a T1 line which is now the norm, and built up a huge catalog of music. Since then, it's only gotten better.

As far as the quality of music these days, that's really all relative to the listener. A person born in the 00's will have a very different opinion on quality as opposed to someone born much earlier, since that person has been subjected to to the advances in technology and music culture immediately after their birth, whereas someone born much earlier has had a sort of layering and build-up of those traits in the industry.

LarsfromVinylyMusic · 01-03-2017, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plankton

It's better now than when I was trying to find music I liked in the 80's and early 90's. ...

Thank you for your long reply Plankton. So to sum up you are pretty happy with whats going on with all the streaming and the way you can discover music.

Does everyone else agree?

Plankton · 01-03-2017, 03:37 PM

I'm fairly certain no one would disagree on that aspect. If I had any gripes, it would be railroading technologies like iTunes. But, I don't use closed architecture technology of that sort.

Thelonious Monkey · 01-03-2017, 03:38 PM

Streaming is awesome, yes. This is the best decade for music, because you can now stream music from all decades. I mean, it's pretty ****ing cool if you ask me.

LarsfromVinylyMusic · 01-03-2017, 04:01 PM

So seems like you as listeners are pretty happy with this whole situation.

I guess I have to explain the background to my question:
I agree that streaming is pretty awesome, but I am just a little concerned about the bands and artists who supply the streaming services and other channels with music. I had the chance to talk to lots of musicians in a recording studio where I was working. From an artist point of view, the situation bares lots of possibilities to make the music available worldwide, but it is so much other stuff out there, that it seems to be really hard to get recognized. And also the financial value for recorded music is a problem for bands, since revenues from streaming etc doesnt really contribute to pay any bills.

I was trying to think of a solution for this situation, where the listener seems to be pretty happy with the situation and the musicians struggle. (In this thread I tried to see if my assumption of this situation was wrong...).
After all, the listener enjoys a product that the musicians makes. So how can we listeners value the music we enjoy? What would be a problem the listener has, that the artist or any service could fix in order to put a value on this in order to improve the musicians situation.
Or is this just not of the listeners concern?

01-03-2017, 02:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
LarsfromVinylyMusic Groupie Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 8	Are you fed up? Hey Banter Forum People, this is my first post, so I would like to say hello and greet all of you. I am opening this thread because I would like to hear your opinion on the following Question: You as a music listener, could you name your biggest struggle with your passion as a music listener? Or is everything great the way it is? I am keeping my question as open as possible in order to not dictate any answers.

01-03-2017, 02:53 PM	#2 (permalink)
Exo All day jazz and biscuits Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 7,354	Am I fed up with what? __________________ LastFM SUPREME POO BAH MODERATOR EXTRAORDINAIRE

01-03-2017, 03:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
Exo All day jazz and biscuits Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 7,354	Okay. Your title just doesn't coincide with what you're asking. "Fed up" implies that something is bothering us so much that we are willing to stop doing that thing. Then your actual inquiry is just like "what annoys you a little bit". It's confusing. To answer your question. I'm all good fam. __________________ LastFM SUPREME POO BAH MODERATOR EXTRAORDINAIRE

01-03-2017, 03:18 PM	#5 (permalink)
Janszoon Mate, Spawn & Die Join Date: May 2007 Location: The Rapping Community Posts: 24,593	I'm fed up with notes be designated by letters. It's absurd. Emojis should be used instead. __________________ A Night in the Life of the Invisible Man Time & Place 25 Albums You Should Hear Before the Moon Crashes into the Earth and We All Die last.fm

01-03-2017, 03:20 PM	#6 (permalink)
Plankton Just Keep Swimming... Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: See signature... Posts: 7,765	It's better now than when I was trying to find music I liked in the 80's and early 90's. Napster and the internet opened it all up. Now I can find whatever I want, whenever I want instead of having to record a tune off the radio, or borrow someone's 8-Track, cassette, CD, or album to copy, then return it (or not). It used to be a time when you'd go over to someone's house, and they'd put on a CD or whatever, and if you liked it, you'd have to jump in the car (or walk) and go to a record store and purchase it, if the person didn't want to loan it to you. Then, with time, the CD or what ever medium you purchased would scratch, get wet, break, wear out, etc. and you'd have to go buy it again. I remember when I first discovered Napster. There were maybe a few thousand people on it, and you could search all their library's and cherry pick what you wanted. Then it exploded, and I started finding obscure albums like Orbital (it was obscure to me at that time) for an example, and bootlegs of things I hadn't hear before. I'd spend entire days at my job DL'ing loads of music, since we had a T1 line which is now the norm, and built up a huge catalog of music. Since then, it's only gotten better. As far as the quality of music these days, that's really all relative to the listener. A person born in the 00's will have a very different opinion on quality as opposed to someone born much earlier, since that person has been subjected to to the advances in technology and music culture immediately after their birth, whereas someone born much earlier has had a sort of layering and build-up of those traits in the industry. __________________ See location...

01-03-2017, 03:04 PM	#3 (permalink)
LarsfromVinylyMusic Groupie Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 8	I just cannot say what you might be fed up since I would like to get your uninfluenced answer. I am interested to see what bothers you as a music listener or what you struggle with. If there is anything that reduces your ability to enjoy music to the fullest, what would that be?

01-03-2017, 03:37 PM	#8 (permalink)
Plankton Just Keep Swimming... Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: See signature... Posts: 7,765	I'm fairly certain no one would disagree on that aspect. If I had any gripes, it would be railroading technologies like iTunes. But, I don't use closed architecture technology of that sort. __________________ See location...

01-03-2017, 03:38 PM	#9 (permalink)
Thelonious Monkey Caesar is home. Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 876	Streaming is awesome, yes. This is the best decade for music, because you can now stream music from all decades. I mean, it's pretty ****ing cool if you ask me.

01-03-2017, 04:01 PM	#10 (permalink)
LarsfromVinylyMusic Groupie Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 8	So seems like you as listeners are pretty happy with this whole situation. I guess I have to explain the background to my question: I agree that streaming is pretty awesome, but I am just a little concerned about the bands and artists who supply the streaming services and other channels with music. I had the chance to talk to lots of musicians in a recording studio where I was working. From an artist point of view, the situation bares lots of possibilities to make the music available worldwide, but it is so much other stuff out there, that it seems to be really hard to get recognized. And also the financial value for recorded music is a problem for bands, since revenues from streaming etc doesnt really contribute to pay any bills. I was trying to think of a solution for this situation, where the listener seems to be pretty happy with the situation and the musicians struggle. (In this thread I tried to see if my assumption of this situation was wrong...). After all, the listener enjoys a product that the musicians makes. So how can we listeners value the music we enjoy? What would be a problem the listener has, that the artist or any service could fix in order to put a value on this in order to improve the musicians situation. Or is this just not of the listeners concern?